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Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together

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Jon

02-10-2003 05:57:28

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A guy in our club (Racin Rick)is building a pretty much all alluminum B. He had the whole frame ground down 1/4 inch and had some of the rear end ground off. He has alluminum wheels and alluminum sheetmetal and all alluminum weight brackets. Anythng that can be replaced with alluminum was. The motor is stroked beyond belief. Has over 100 horse and it weighs only 2900 pounds. This guy has tons of money but knows nothing about driving a tractor, what to look for on the track, and can't tell the diffrence between the negative and positive side of the battery. He says in the 3250 and the 3500 pound class he wants to give it half throttle, put it in sixth and totally dump the clutch and go! Is this tractor going to hang together? NO that's what I think. I want to here everyone else's opinion.

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At-A-Boy

02-15-2003 07:01:07

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Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 05:57:28

Jon, it sounds like you are at least a sore looser or maybe you are just a plain LOOSER. I think you need to compete with your tractor not your mouth. If you are so much better, PROVE IT ON THE TRACK.

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Lee

02-13-2003 14:43:58

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Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 05:57:28

I understand that there was a JD B over in Ohio last summer that was beating M's and 88"s at 3 mph.

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John

02-13-2003 17:52:43

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Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Lee, 02-13-2003 14:43:58

The is a STRONG JD B in Ohio, if fact a guy by the name of Rick pulling a JD B won the Central Ohio Antique Tractor Pullers Association 4500#. Div II points championship for 2002.

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Jon

02-13-2003 19:06:17

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Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to John, 02-13-2003 17:52:43

Yep, that would be him. He left his tug pulling club because he was getting beat. But he showed off his award plaque at our last club meeting. But the way that he explained it to me was that he won because he placed consistantly and showed up at every pull. That's somthing alot of people coudn't do(show up at every pull). Don't get me wrong his old B ran pretty decent.

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fergusonfan

02-11-2003 17:29:22

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Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 05:57:28

Hope the club this guy pulls with has insurance. We had someone try that philosophy here with a hot stock IH 1066. Front end went up,front end came down..tractor split in half. Scary.

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Ron

02-10-2003 20:52:32

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Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 05:57:28

I hope he has a LARGE stock-pile of axles..!!!!!

Those axles won't take that much pressure..!!

FWIW.....

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100 hp - JD hombre es loco

02-10-2003 19:29:22

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Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 05:57:28

you would have a better chance making 100hp with a Farmall B or an Allis Chalmers B than you would a JD B

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I spelled Aluminum wrong (I feel pretty stupid)

02-10-2003 16:37:41

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Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 05:57:28

!!!

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Jon

02-10-2003 16:30:02

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Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 05:57:28

I just remembered I forgot to add the alluminum, narrow/wide front end.

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DIV. 5 PULLER

02-10-2003 16:21:10

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Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 05:57:28

Bring it on! Ill Pound that"B" so far down that he will have to look UP to see bottom!
Were did this Guy come from?(the planet keriony) Who in there right mind can think that a Jd-B can pull open sits right up there in the same group as the Bar Stool Politician! What kind of Defect causes ones brain to function in such a way! I want to see this! I will laugh that so hard Ill be sore for a week.Bill Bear though he was going to be superman too,but Bill forgot that there are more than just him on this planet.
JD-B hahahahahaha Div.5 hahahahahahah 100hp hahahahaha. PEN & TELLER have a show for this!

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Drew

02-10-2003 14:46:54

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Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 05:57:28

I would not question wheather the tractor will hold together or not. 2900 is not super light for a B. 100 horse would be streaching the envelope to the edge, but I think it is possible. I do however think he's dreaming if thinks he is going to pull 3250 and 3500 in road gear. 100+ hp WC's and H's are not running road gear, so I don't see how that the B can do it. If he wound it TIGHT, and it would stay together at 1500-1600 rpm, then MAYBE 5th gear in 3250 with a long chain and a sand box for a track, but that would still probably be dreaming. It also depends on what he running for tires as to what gear it will hack.
Just my $0.02

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Ralph

02-15-2003 03:42:35

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Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Drew, 02-10-2003 14:46:54

I think you need to check the difference in the spped of the road gears in the different tractors. I think road gear in a B is much slower than H's and WC's.

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bman

02-10-2003 09:52:24

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Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 05:57:28

nope probly wont even make it to the track.some people just dont care to live very long

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Jerry

02-10-2003 13:50:50

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Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to bman, 02-10-2003 09:52:24

What kind of tractor is it? Deere,Chalmers,Farmall?

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Jon

02-10-2003 13:59:58

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Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jerry, 02-10-2003 13:50:50

JD B

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Mike F

02-10-2003 18:23:09

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 13:59:58

I know and owned some good B's and there is just no way a B can make 100 hp. It would be in pieces at any major RPM, this sounds like total hogwash to me, I'd say a good solid B can be maybe get 60 hp with the best of everything at a reasonable speed.

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Jerry

02-10-2003 18:20:08

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-10-2003 13:59:58

it would suprise me if he could get more than 60 horse packed into a B John Deere.

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dynoed at local JD dealer

02-11-2003 13:12:57

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jerry, 02-10-2003 18:20:08

I wouldn't of believed it either if I hadn't seen it. A few of our club members got together one day when he had it out at the JD dealer. The mechanic at the JD dealer built it. They blew up and ruined several power blocks. They might have got lucky enough for one to hang together to make it through the dyno. He just spent MAJOR $$$ to build this thing. Heck no more satisfaction that you would get out of the thing it wouldn't be worth it. You could have easily built a pro stock for this kind of money. In my opinion he is CRAZY!!!

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Dear Mr BS

02-11-2003 13:27:03

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to dynoed at local JD dealer, 02-11-2003 13:12:57

Your story would be more believable if you would have said 102hp or 98hp. But 100hp even, NO WAY.

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Jon

02-11-2003 14:44:38

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Dear Mr BS, 02-11-2003 13:27:03

What the heck I didn't mean 100 even!!! That would be pretty STUPID!!! It was exactly 93. SORRY I'll be sure to clarify that next time for those of you idiots out there!!!

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So now what?

02-11-2003 20:21:29

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-11-2003 14:44:38

It was 100. Now it is 93. 93 was 87. OPPS 78 not 87. Well 78 if we have the good fuel, 63 with pump gas. Ok, now we know the truth.

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denny

02-12-2003 18:19:14

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to So now what?, 02-11-2003 20:21:29

so that's how denny figures horsepower with his magic pistons?

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Jon

02-12-2003 04:54:57

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to So now what?, 02-11-2003 20:21:29

I'm sorry but I've always talked like this. To me anytihing between 90 and 110 is a 100 horse if someone asks me. If I have a 105 horse in a tractor and someone asks me what I have in I'd say around 100 thats just how I am. I'm sorry you to my Comments the wrong way.

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Now I get it.

02-12-2003 08:47:06

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-12-2003 04:54:57

Anything between 50hp and 150hp is the same as 100hp. Does this apply to all John Deere tractors or only the model B?

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Jon

02-12-2003 13:05:28

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Now I get it., 02-12-2003 08:47:06

Hey I'd like to keep it to JD's in general because I have never liked them. I don't care what you do or don't believe. The guy is crazy and I don't even want to guess how much $$$ he has in it.

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Jon

02-12-2003 13:09:59

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to Jon, 02-12-2003 13:05:28

No, really anything between 16 to 150. That way I can say every John Deere tractor I have has 100 horse according to you. My favorite 100 horse tractor is my newly restored (first JD I've owned) John Deere M. That 100 horse M will pull my good tractors (Olivers) backwards any day of the week.

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WILDMAN

02-12-2003 04:28:21

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Alluminum 100 horse B will it hold together in reply to So now what?, 02-11-2003 20:21:29

EVEN IF WAS 120HP IT WOULD NOT PULL ROAD GEAR.I THINK THE GREEN TRACTORS ARE AMAZING HOW WELL THEY PULL STOCK, BUT IN MT OPINION THATS WHAT THEY NEED TO STICK TO.

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