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Boyce Seaman
02-25-2003 10:11:28
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Re: Re: bone stock pulling in reply to Jeff, 02-24-2003 20:40:01
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"Bone Stock" what is that? I doubt you will find many tractors that are "Bone Stock". Many of these tractors are 60 to 70 years old, some older. They have been drug out of junk piles and rebuilt. Others have been overhauled more than once, are you saying they have never been bored, or that they don't have higher compression pistons from one of the many after market providers. How about a head that may have been cracked or removed, do you think a person wouldn't put a later model head on if that is what he was lucky enough to find, when he put it on he definitely wouldn't port match the ports with the "after market manifold" because it was not cast for a good fit. How about the different brand carb., if the original was gone for some reason, a person couldn't buy a different brand replacement if that were what he could find. When he is rebuilding this engine would he leave the old wore out cam in there or would he put in a factory reground, I'm certain he would specify it had to be ground to the exact specs. of the 1936 model he is restoring. I'm sure all these tractors are going to run factory stock RPM. Most of these examples are hard if not impossible to police, and, many times lead to disagreements and hard feelings. Oh, how about pressed steel wheels, do you really think it is fair to have a 1952 Oliver 88,or Massey 44's, with pressed steel pulling in a 4500 lb class against tractors with much less power and tell them they can't run pressed steel. Drawbars can be another interesting item, with no modifications, an Oliver 88 pulls from about 33" back, a MM ub is about 32", an IH-M is about 28" pulling from the U shaped bail and a clevis. While JD's can pull there drawbars in to very close to 20", and if they put them in end-for-end may get closer. And then again the Oliver and some of the others can raise the drawbars to near 20" high, maybe higher, while the JD probably can't even get near that, unless of course he is running tires that are bigger than "Bone Stock". I wonder how many antique tractors are not running "Bone Stock" tire sizes. Also it is very easy to drill additional holes and most of us can't tell. Another thing how many of us can tell a JD A drawbar from a 60, or a G, even a 720. Go look a JD parts book, you may be surprised. No hanging weights? Several years ago I saw a IH Super M stand as straight up as I would think is possible, for some reason it didn't go over backwards, it was pretty near stock with no front weights or wheely bars. "Bone Stock"? I don't think it is realistic to think that most are, and, maybe if they are, they may not safe to be pulling. You may not agree with what I have said but I hope it is food for thought.
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