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Jeremy in Ohio

03-01-2003 21:31:18

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I have an idea for a class and don't know why COATPA won't at least explore it if they are going to run ATPA super farms.

Here is how I would design it

5500lbs
Engine must bolt in factory position
No Overhead cams

No Component Tractors
Roll Cage and Kill switch
2 Turbos
24.5x32 Cut tires
No Alcohol
I think a class like this would be an awesome class. It would be the unlimited of the Antique world so to speak. All though I am kinda new to antique pulling. I just think it would make for an exciting class

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Ron

03-03-2003 05:26:58

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Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Jeremy in Ohio, 03-01-2003 21:31:18

Are there any "Bone-Stock" pulling classes anymore.??? Are all pulling classes saturated with "Stroked" and highly modified tractors..??? I always enjoy seeing "County pulls", where all tractors must be farm-usuable.... Everyone seems to have a good time, and we all have the satisfaction of seeing more Brands of tractors show up.!! Local farm kids have a BALL..!!!!!

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G-MAN

03-03-2003 10:36:20

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Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Ron, 03-03-2003 05:26:58

The basic problem lies in the fact that there are always those ready, willing and able to cheat to take home a $3 trophy for the mantle. If everyone were honest, there would be far less rules needed, and people would probably be happier. I doubt if I'll join any association for just that reason, and I'll pull exhibition at the pulls I'm not legal for. I just want to pull, and I don't care if I take home any hardware. I agree totally with the good old county fair pulls. My hometown fair is like that - run what you brung and hope you brung enough, and everybody relaxes with a cold one afterwards. It's common to see guys helping their competition throw weights between classes, and doing anything else they possibly can to help. That's what it's all about, and how it should remain.

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Ron

03-03-2003 18:15:05

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Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to G-MAN, 03-03-2003 10:36:20

Thanks, GMan.!!

That's the way it is at Mt Gilead, Ohio...!!

Sure, some may have a 1/8th inch bore, or larger tires, but they all help each other throw weights, and tune..... pull-start each other...!!! Nobody gets on the Cockshut30's, for running out of power, the JD "B".s are in there with the better of them (except maybe the Case 400's, and JD "R", and 80...) Double-tree pulls are a little "Hairy"... The kids pull their peddle tractors, and the following nite, they have the "pros" come in, with the black smoke, and then, the multi-engined pullers...! The horse pulls, at their fair are some of the BEST in the State...being, they are only a week or 2 before the "National Pull", at Ashland, Ohio.. I hear the Croton, Ohio is a real good fair, but I don't know how the pulls are..probably hard competition.!!

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enough already!

03-02-2003 07:44:31

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Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Jeremy in Ohio, 03-01-2003 21:31:18

Central Ohio has enough classes as it is without trying to satisfiy everybody with their own little niche class. They almost need to take the antique out of their name as they would rather play with hot tractors because a few board members want it that way.

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Jeremy in Ohio

03-02-2003 08:38:16

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Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to enough already!, 03-02-2003 07:44:31

Take a chill pill. To me it just makes sense to offer a class like this if you are going to add superfarms. It was just a suggestion and I wanted to get some feedback, not unwarranted pissitivity from an antique puller with a cob up his rear.

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ENOUGH ALREADY!

03-02-2003 11:41:30

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Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Jeremy in Ohio, 03-02-2003 08:38:16

What do you want for rules in this class? Are there already tractors out there that want a place to pull? Do you have one for this class? Central Ohio already has a bunch of turbo classes, why add more. Can't you just build a Div. 5 turbo tractor or are you afraid of Siefert? As for being a antique puller with a cob up my a$$, I pull antique and hot stock N/A. What do you pull, or are you a wannabe with dreams of pulling superstock.

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pcy

03-02-2003 11:12:09

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Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Jeremy in Ohio, 03-02-2003 08:38:16

sounds like a heck of a good ideal 5700 lb superfarm rules from ky would work good ,

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Jeremy in Ohio

03-02-2003 16:57:47

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to pcy, 03-02-2003 11:12:09

No I don't have a tractor as of right now. SO WHAT. What is wrong with making a suggestion. You completely missed the point that I am new to the sport. I have followed OSTPA and NTPA all my life. Just never really got into antiques. I think this is a good class because I know of alot of old SS that use to pull the Light class that are just sitting in sheds. I think it would be a neat class. I think it would be cool to see Oliver 88's, 1650, AC xt 180's and 90's, Small Internationals, Cockshuts as superstocks. I have been to your pulls and honestly I think the turbo classes you have are boring. I would like to see a class with more breathing room, and as I said before I already gave rules

NO COMPONENT TRACTORS
NO OVERHEAD CAMS
24.5x32 tires any cut
2 Turbos
Unlimited RPMS
Tractor must run stock block and bolt in original position
NO ALCOHOL
350 Cubes (This helps regulate the type of tractor you won't get JD 4020's into this class.)
Scatter Blankets Required
Roll Cages Required

I think a class like this might bring in more attendance at your county fair pulls. I don't see the problem with it. Alot of guys who already run the circuit may step up to a class like this, maybe not

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Brad

03-03-2003 10:45:45

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Jeremy in Ohio, 03-02-2003 16:57:47

Why couldn't a 4010 or 4020 get in?

301 Gas 4010
340 Gas 4020

Last I checked these are under 350.

Brad

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laipuller

03-02-2003 18:04:47

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Jeremy in Ohio, 03-02-2003 16:57:47

i am not condemming your idea, not a bad one, but may not exatly be fesible at the same time, a stock 900 case or 600(if one wanted to go that route) is factory 377? a little biased maybe on the cid limit? not looking to start nothing just my $.02

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Rick

03-02-2003 18:02:33

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Jeremy in Ohio, 03-02-2003 16:57:47

It is not a good thing when you make rules with the idea of eliminating the competition. In my mind we already have too many people that do that and if you look hard enough you should find a class to pull in. When you make more classes you lessen the competition in two classes , that being the new class and the old one that would be close to that new one.

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Jeremy in Ohio

03-03-2003 14:13:42

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Rick, 03-02-2003 18:02:33

Once again I am going to reiterate the idea that I am new to Antique pulling. Maybe the cubes need to be upped to 400. I am not looking to lessen competition but broaden it. Provide a class with lots of horses and lots of wheel speed, but yet still not have all the political BS that goes with the light supers of ATPA and NTPA. I think if you dissallow Overhead Cams, and component tractors suddenly you have an interesting class. And to be honest, I am not much of a Deer man, I figured the 4020 was bigger than that.

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Puller

03-04-2003 16:57:10

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Jeremy in Ohio, 03-03-2003 14:13:42

We cannot have another 4010, 4020 class in coatpa, says Joe Hussain Cronkleton and his Iraqi board followers.

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div. 2 puller

03-04-2003 19:58:55

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Puller, 03-04-2003 16:57:10

you should not say anything bad about joe or he will not let you ride on his camel any more, or heaven for bid if he changes the rules in your class because you spoke out about him.why do they call this club coatpa any way,it is his private club and he is the one who has the last statement. it is like watching sheep following each other. some day when he has all the money and they are following him he will turn left and they will walk over the cliff.

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Jeremy in Ohio

03-05-2003 06:37:53

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to div. 2 puller, 03-04-2003 19:58:55

Once again, I am new to Antique pulling and COATPA. I have spoken with Joe on the phone once, seemed like a fairly reasonable guy, but I don't know him like you all do from one conversation. What is wrong with adding a class like the one I mentioned>

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Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain

03-08-2003 06:07:27

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Antique Superstock in reply to Jeremy in Ohio, 03-05-2003 06:37:53

How does the saying go, the king has no clothes. Well as Jeremy in Ohio says, I have no tractor! It certainly doesn't stop him from having all the answers as to what classes & wts. the rest of us "SHOULD BE" pulling. BTW, he posts on several other boards as to what classes ATPA & NTPA ought to be running along with the rules & wts. of their classes also. The guy just knows whats best for everyone. If theres a site for peddle pulling I'm sure he's posted there too!

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