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John Deere 60 low buck engine

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farmall21

05-25-2003 11:43:17




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I recently purchased a John Deere 60 to pull. I am needing information on building a big motor on a low budget.




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Farmall21

05-27-2003 14:44:44




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 Re: John Deere 60 low buck engine in reply to farmall21, 05-25-2003 11:43:17  
Thanks for all the help guys



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Jason

05-26-2003 18:43:37




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 Re: John Deere 60 low buck engine in reply to farmall21, 05-25-2003 11:43:17  
Place an add for a used pulling motor. Thats the cheapest way to get HP. Doesn't look like you are getting alot of actual help from this forum... That's a shame. You asked a very honest and sicere question.



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G Taylor

05-25-2003 11:51:18




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 Re: John Deere 60 low buck engine in reply to farmall21, 05-25-2003 11:43:17  
As long as she will spin out in 1st gear, spend your coin on good tires/rims and use your time balancing fore/aft weight, drawbar length and varying tire pressure.



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farmall21

05-25-2003 12:27:47




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 Re: Re: John Deere 60 low buck engine in reply to G Taylor, 05-25-2003 11:51:18  
I bought it with a bad motor and thought I could build it while its down.



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G Taylor

05-26-2003 15:40:54




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 Re: Re: Re: John Deere 60 low buck engine in reply to farmall21, 05-25-2003 12:27:47  
How deep are your pockets?



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70 horse

05-26-2003 17:36:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: John Deere 60 low buck engine in reply to G Taylor, 05-26-2003 15:40:54  
they shouldn't need to be too deep for 70 horse. you'll have to buy pistons and bore it, and probably stroke it a little (no more than 1"). Unless you stroke it an inch or more don't bother with any head or carb work, there just won't be enough difference for it to be worth it.



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describe

05-25-2003 18:22:03




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 Re: Re: Re: John Deere 60 low buck engine in reply to farmall21, 05-25-2003 12:27:47  
describe big motor to us...how much horsepower do you want?



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farmall21

05-25-2003 20:03:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: John Deere 60 low buck engine in reply to describe, 05-25-2003 18:22:03  
I am wanting to build a 70 plus horse engine something to be able to compete pretty well. I know nothing about john deeres thats why i need all the help i can get.Thanks



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G Taylor......ok if you a

05-27-2003 07:26:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: John Deere 60 low buck engine in reply to farmall21, 05-25-2003 20:03:07  
Find a powerblock, get the cam done by Robert's carb shop, convert the aircleaner to dry filter and have Steve Crum make an intake pipe. Not sure if he makes exhaust manifolds or just the pipe from the manifold to the muffler too. Install the biggest intake valves that will fit and blend the valve bowls rough edges/lips etc smooth. Mill the back off the intake and exhaust valves so they have a nail head shape rather than a taper. Install a LP intake manifold. New valve springs, an MSD 6 ignition hidden in the battery box and a stock looking high output coil. Remove the fan blades and install any old used auto electric fan infront of the rad. When pulling switch open the generator field. Switch the hydraulic and pto drives off. Stamped steel wheels and other weight cutting will get her down into the 5500lb class where your chances are better. Those Super M's running big block Chev pistons in a stock looking block are tough to beat in the 6500lb class. #1 however. No matter how much HP she makes, if the power isn't getting to the ground it's wasted. I've been beat a couple of times by a old smoking worn out stock "B" with good tires and perfect weight balance. My 435 has three times the power and speed and got whipped until traction/balance was worked out with experimentation. Still can't get those &&^%^ 30" tires to bite like 38" tires however. Even when surface area is very similar. #2 do you have $5000.00 to play with?

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Mike in Mo

05-27-2003 15:00:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: John Deere 60 low buck eng in reply to G Taylor......ok if you a, 05-27-2003 07:26:36  
Farmall21 To expand a little on G Taylor's response to get 70 hp and not stroke it you'll need to get your hp per cubic inch to around 5.5 cubes per 1 hp which is do-able. The entire induction system (air cleaner to valve including camshaft) must be optimized for the size engine you have. Too little air flow and you lose hp because the cylinders arn't filled completly, and too much capacity and the air velocity is too slow for optimum cylinder filling. shoot for compression around 9-10:1 ratio A bored (6.125")power block and everything optimized will probably get you in the 65 hp range. Mike

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G Taylor

05-27-2003 18:13:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: John Deere 60 low buck in reply to Mike in Mo, 05-27-2003 15:00:36  
I was shying away from stroking even through it adds cubic inches like nothing else. Just that it costs so much and to keep from wacking pistons into spark plugs and connecting rods into everthing else.



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Why don't you go butcher

05-25-2003 20:19:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: John Deere 60 low buck engine in reply to farmall21, 05-25-2003 20:03:07  
NT



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