Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Discussion Forum

Case 1030 vs. 1070 (help) PLEASE -NO BRAND BASHING

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Jon

07-13-2003 12:58:01




Report to Moderator

The Nebraska tests show the 1030 with 101 hp with 451 cu in. at 2000 RPM and weighs 9335 lbs. The 1070 with 107 hp with 451 cu in. at 2100 rpm and weighs 11,410. Both without cabs. Is that correct? I want to build either a 1030 or 1070 to pull. I have never been able to weigh them but I never thought their was that much difference. Is the engine design the same since they both have 451 cu in or is the 1070 better designed? Also the 1370 has the 504 cu in is that the same block with a bigger diameter piston.
Other words can you take a 1070 to 504 cu in.? Any and all input would be appreciated! Thanks

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
joecool

07-14-2003 16:47:30




Report to Moderator
 Re: Case 1030 vs. 1070 (help) PLEASE -NO BRAND BAS in reply to Jon , 07-13-2003 12:58:01  
you can put 504 sleeves and pistons in 401 or 451 block. If you want to stay in antique class. I would go with 70 series heads if rules allow later. Alot of people would not know what to look for anyway. The cross flow heads on 504 is the way to go. The 1030 rear should hold hp. Andy Mane was getting alot of hp, 1000 plus with turboed 504, stock rods, and crank, pistons shaved to reduce compression. I want to build one myself.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
art

07-15-2003 15:16:46




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Case 1030 vs. 1070 (help) PLEASE -NO BRAND in reply to joecool, 07-14-2003 16:47:30  
We have quite a few case parts to build 504 engines if you need any help give me a shout. artw@hotmail.com Art



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
1206SWMO

07-13-2003 21:38:09




Report to Moderator
 Re: Case 1030 vs. 1070 (help) PLEASE -NO BRAND BAS in reply to Jon , 07-13-2003 12:58:01  
This past Friday eve at a huge pull in Troy,MO I saw a sharp 1030 Case (Short Changed) out pull 11 other very good tractors to win the 10,000 pro field class.Probably was running a 504 but wont say for sure.Hes from Beaufort,MO.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Slo

07-13-2003 20:48:30




Report to Moderator
 Re: Case 1030 vs. 1070 (help) PLEASE -NO BRAND BAS in reply to Jon , 07-13-2003 12:58:01  
Fella here just brought his 1030 out for the first time this weekend, won his first class in 8500. Runs a whole lot better than last year.

He put a 70 series head - cross flow - on it, made a world of difference.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Toolman

07-13-2003 19:11:39




Report to Moderator
 Re: Case 1030 vs. 1070 (help) PLEASE -NO BRAND BAS in reply to Jon , 07-13-2003 12:58:01  
i run a 504 in a 930 and it bolted in with no problems, you just have to drill the hole for the steering rod to go through.the 504 heads flow so much better than the 451 heads, and it is direct injection instead of having the power cells. 400 horse at stock rpm is easily attained if bored and stroked some. I pull 7000 and 9000 pound classes in road gear with no problems. but a double disk clutch is a must.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
m-6

07-13-2003 18:04:12




Report to Moderator
 Re: Case 1030 vs. 1070 (help) PLEASE -NO BRAND BAS in reply to Jon , 07-13-2003 12:58:01  
70 series heads are much better from what I've heard since they are cross flow (Intake and exhaust manifolds on opposite sides - more room for air flow around valves, etc.) Was just talking to a guy today about this very thing - he says the difference between 1030 and 930 rears is bearing sizes, but gears, etc are the same. He said that 70 series manual trannys "lock" into gear much better than 30 series rearends. We were actually discussing the chance of a 504 into say a 930, but he recommended going with a 1030 rear - if you ever get to the level where a slipper clutch would be wanted, the 1030 has a longer bellhousing for it to fit into I guess. Apparently the 504 would bot up to either of them without too much problem.

Hope some of this helps - let us know what you decide to do.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
FB

07-13-2003 13:56:16




Report to Moderator
 Re: Case 1030 vs. 1070 (help) PLEASE -NO BRAND BAS in reply to Jon , 07-13-2003 12:58:01  
Don't know anything about those tractors, but i have been pulling for a while and if they have the same hsp.(which they do..basically) the lighter one is better because of moveable weight and able to pull lighter classes with more cubic inches then ur competition



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
art

07-14-2003 16:27:54




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Case 1030 vs. 1070 (help) PLEASE -NO BRAND in reply to FB, 07-13-2003 13:56:16  
Depends entirely on whether or not you have to use the stock engine. 1030 and 970 have the fuel pumps on different sides so a switch is obvious. If you don't have to worry about the correct engine in the chassis then its up to you. It is a little difficult to put a big charger under a 1030 hood. We run an H-5 under a 970 hood with room to spare. Stay away from the powershifts. Gear drive 30 or 70 series transmissions and rear ends are both good. 504 cubic inch with direct injection heads is the way to go. Fuel and turbo depend on what your class limitations are. aRt

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Jerry

07-19-2003 17:11:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Case 1030 vs. 1070 (help) PLEASE -NO B in reply to art, 07-14-2003 16:27:54  
This a little out of line with what you are talking about. I am wondering about a Case 900B with 6/377 is any where close to a 401.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy