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Red

08-06-2003 11:44:24

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Hey, How did you solve the gear problem after raising your cam in your big H motor. Do you know of any cutters around for the cam drive and the crank gear. Any problems after the furnace braising with setting new holes for the cam.

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Red

08-06-2003 20:41:43

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Re: Chads??? in reply to Red, 08-06-2003 11:44:24

Hey Chads,
H body and trans and rearend. 350 block now no engine modifications stock 175 Have a dyno and tune carb before each pull depending about altitude or weather conditions. strong division 3 in my area from 4100 to 5100 lbs working on the 225 block, another 350. Sorry for not telling you about the 350 block off the bat. your big Motor in your H, H block or 350? Have you noticed any stress problems with your drive shaft at the coupler going into trany? Seems that those 4 little bolts would be the first to go under a load once a person starts getting those horses up over 100.

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Chads

08-06-2003 12:33:54

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Re: Chads??? in reply to Red, 08-06-2003 11:44:24

Cam is still in stock location in the block. What are you having trouble with? Rods not clearing the cam? Maybe I can help. Chads

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Red

08-06-2003 14:50:55

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Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to Chads, 08-06-2003 12:33:54

rods were hitting the cam on 5 1/4 stroke but minor touch ups on cam and even a little block grinding so the rod bolts cleared solved the problem. current 225 inch. future 6 inch stroke seems to pose a clearence problem on a stock cam and block sidewall, can the rods be ground to meet clearence requirements without loosing strength? Thanks

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ChadS

08-06-2003 15:22:47

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Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to Red, 08-06-2003 14:50:55

Do you have an H? I will assume yes, so here goes. It is alot of work swinging 6 inches of stroke in an H, lots of clearence work. In some places, more than should be. I recomend staying around 5-3/4 stroker for a good reliable H. I have 3 tractors, one with a 5.25 stroke, one 5-3/4 stroke, and one 6-1/4 stroke. I am regreting building the 6-1/4 engine, like any other project, still working the bugs out. The other 2 engines, both still have the stock rods. 5-3/4 is as far as a stock rod will let you go. Had to do alot of grinding, and clearence work. But it holds together very well with no problems. I ran a 806 lp,high altitude .060 pistons which is a 3.852 bore. Makes 270ci, with a very good cyl head makes 105 hp. very reliable, Starts well, does not get hot. Hope this helps ChadS

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ChadS

08-06-2003 19:37:21

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to ChadS, 08-06-2003 15:22:47

To build a 100 hp, 264, it is gonna take alot of compression, with the right M&W pistons that have that small wrist pin, If you have a 4 inch bore M you may have a big pin. The 281 engine you have would be the right piston pin diameter. I would say it would take 300psi to to do it. If I used Alcohol, after the modifications, Yes, I could make it well over 100. Most clubs, and local pulls don't allow it. i can't see why? ChadS

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08-06-2003 15:41:34

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to ChadS, 08-06-2003 15:22:47

think you cold get 100 hsp out of 264 cubic inch M, i mean by not adding any cubes....now theres u a challenge

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ChadS

08-06-2003 18:21:31

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to FB, 08-06-2003 15:41:34

Would you donate the tractor to try? No joke. ChadS

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08-06-2003 20:09:26

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to ChadS, 08-06-2003 18:21:31

would yah donate the work????? ? but i think when we build our next tractor we will get in touch with you for some parts and some ideas

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ITS DONE!!

08-09-2003 10:57:43

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to FB, 08-06-2003 20:09:26

Just wanted to let you know the results of the M I was working on. 75hp at 540, and peak hp is 100hp. When I started it was 65hp and peak Hp was 80. Peak hp rpm was at 1300rpms. These are the results, no BS. That is 10hp increase at 540 and a 20hp increase at 1300rpms. What do you think? ChadS

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More BS

08-11-2003 10:26:20

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to ITS DONE!!, 08-09-2003 10:57:43

You REALY need to learn how to use a dyno!!!

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ChadS

08-14-2003 17:14:59

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to More BS, 08-11-2003 10:26:20

Thank you for your kind words again

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Chads

08-12-2003 13:53:15

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to More BS, 08-11-2003 10:26:20

You really need stop sticking your nose where it don't belong. Haven't learned a lesson by now?

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ChadS

08-06-2003 20:17:37

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to FB, 08-06-2003 20:09:26

At your service. Would you come to Indiana to my shop? If you would, Yes, I would IF you would buy the parts, labor is free, to you only. Think about it. ChadS

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ChadS

08-06-2003 19:17:48

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to ChadS, 08-06-2003 18:21:31

I am working on a M right now, It has 4-1/4s high compression pistons. I am installing a copper head gasket, .020 thick, and shaving the head (8060D).100. It was 70hp when I started working on it. It had 150psi at cranking speed. I am not touching the wrist pins. Just head work, governor spring, Carb modifications, changing fuel form 94 octane, to gas and ethanol mix, and copper head gasket. The pistons have a .375 step on the top of the piston. In the shape of the compression chamber. My goal is somewhere beteween 80-85 at 540. if it is, the engine will lug down up to 90-95 at 400 pto rpm. I belive that this engine could be alot stronger if I changed the wrist pin location. when I am done I will let you know how much hp I got from it. NO BS Numbers, Just the truth, I am taking a few pictures this time with my digital camera, I hope I can learn how to send some pictures to you, I am working on it. So, far I've lowered the head .152 thousandths I am checking piston,valve clearence as well. Anyway, thats what I,m doing to the project M, should have it done by Sat. Like I said, I am not going to be dishonest about the hp. How many hp do you think it will make? Right now, your guess is as good as mine. Later ChadS

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Wide Front SM Puller

08-07-2003 04:26:57

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to ChadS, 08-06-2003 19:17:48

I have a 53 Super M that I have done the following to:

4 1/8" Add power pistons
450 lp head(completly gone over, new everything),
electronic ignition, C81AC plugs with Accel wires,
carb and gov. has been reworked, venturi from 806 gas
cam has been replaced(don't know the specs., but Bullett Cams did the work), 115 octane fuel.

I did a compression check and it read 245-250psi. Any idea what the comrression ration is and your best guess on hp. We took the pto out so no way to check.
Any help would be appreciated.

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ChadS

08-09-2003 12:56:56

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to Wide Front SM Puller, 08-07-2003 04:26:57

Somewhere around 85-85. 12.5to1, somewhere in that area. How much dome is on the tops of the pistons? ChadS

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08-06-2003 19:52:17

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to ChadS, 08-06-2003 19:17:48

don't know how to guess horsepower well at all, i just figure out wat it'll do on the track....HAHA first gear in any stock class up to 9500

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ChadS

08-06-2003 20:08:48

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to FB, 08-06-2003 19:52:17

Excellent point. This tractor pulls light classes 4500, 5000,5500. He wants to run 2nd gear, up to 5500. ChadS

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Donnie

08-06-2003 22:46:35

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to ChadS, 08-06-2003 20:08:48

Chad, where at in Indiana are you? I live in New Castle IN. Where can I get a copper head gasket? And what is your opinion on the longer rockers? I have a 52 M that I pull. It is pretty strong a 75 hp but getting butt kicked by the six cylinder 460's. About ready to sell mine and go to a 460. I just hate to give up on the old girl. Yes these are Rushville 460's, if you know what I mean. Thanks Donnie

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Chads

08-07-2003 10:41:37

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chads??? in reply to Donnie , 08-06-2003 22:46:35

Email me at Hpuller@hotmail.com or call 574-893-7437 Akron, Indiana. Need to know about bore size. Chads

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