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A question for Chads

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SRJ

09-15-2003 19:45:06




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What is the compression on a stock Super M in psi? What would be a good gas to run for Farm Stock pulling?It is a stock SM, it has stock pistion. I did a compression test on it the compression was 135 psi on all four cylinders. It is a 52 sm. Thank for any help.




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ChadS

09-16-2003 08:11:06




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 Re: A question for Chads in reply to SRJ, 09-15-2003 19:45:06  
I recommend a mixture of 60% ultra 94 octane, and 40% ethanol. I have tested all the big name fuels, and for tractors running 2500rpm or less, this is the best fuel I have found that makes the most power for your dollar. I don't know if ethanol is available in your area, I know of a few places here in Indiana that supply it. You would have to rejet the carb and the metering stem to makr it run correctly. In your case it would be simple to build a carb to your tractors' engine. My second best fuel that I have found is made by VP racing fuels, it is called C-16. Designed for turbo charged engines, but works well in antiques as well. Not as much power as the ehtanol mixture, but good enough to change the power band of the engine. Alos I recomend that you change the governor spring. My opinion is this, a stock farmall governor is slow and unresponcive. The spring will speed up the reaction time of the governor, and open the carb faster, and hold it open until you shut it down. I have springs available that work wonders in the old tractors. When you go to a pull, and you have a bone stock tractor, it will pull well, yes, But against a tractor that has had work done to it, there is no comparison, sometimes. In order to pull and be competitive, you must set the tractor up for pulling. Usually involves a good carb, good fuel, ignition timing, and light governor work. Another step would be milling the head. Yes, it will boost compression, but there is other methods of building compression in a Farmall. Just my nickles worth of advice, Chads

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stuart martin

09-16-2003 20:15:59




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 Re: Re: A question for Chads in reply to ChadS, 09-16-2003 08:11:06  
hey chad, i have a 1954 john deere 60 with aluminum pistons and .45 overbore, what can i do to get more than 43 hp out of it, I went to a pull and pulled in it in the 6500lbs class but only weighed 6000, I beat a 560 gas with 63 horse and 3 M s with at least 55 hp lol
i guess i can compete with a played with tractor lol what do you think, oh yeah i had new tires on a super hard class which is a disadvantage.

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stuart martin

09-16-2003 20:18:32




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 Re: Re: Re: A question for Chads in reply to stuart martin, 09-16-2003 20:15:59  
yeah and the guy with the 560 was allowed to use the TA



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ChadS

09-16-2003 20:28:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: A question for Chads in reply to stuart martin, 09-16-2003 20:18:32  
43 hp is not too bad for a 60. JD are hard to tune, but yes, there is a few different thing that may help. what kind of gas do you run?? ChadS



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Stuart martin

09-22-2003 09:16:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A question for Chads in reply to ChadS, 09-16-2003 20:28:50  
41 hp was stock
i use 87 octane but i have a extra cam and carb that i can experiment with if you would like to help me give me your email address and i will send you my tractor specs
it may only have 43 hp but they are alot bigger horses than a farmall lol
I can hold 53 hp on the dyno consistently but its way under the rpm mark



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ChadS

09-16-2003 06:41:04




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 Re: A question for Chads in reply to SRJ, 09-15-2003 19:45:06  
Hi, It ranges from 100psi up to 160psi, stock, Depending on what pistons are in it. Roughly your tractor would be right around 50-57hp at 540rpm, with 135psi. It could be stronger with a few modifications. Email me at hpuller2001@yahoo.com for more info, Hope this helps, ChadS



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