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BIG DADDY POINTS

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MISERY

10-06-2003 16:08:46




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Did I hear right, the MASSEY won at Oakboro after the owner forfeited? Then they took the points back? That don't sound right, and you don't have JOHN DEERE anywhere on your tractor. Good Luck!

MISERY




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THE Bulldog

10-07-2003 11:56:13




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 Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to MISERY, 10-06-2003 16:08:46  
I’m not posting to add fuel to the fire, and sometimes my mouth gets me in trouble, but I think a few things do need to be said about “Rules is Rules”, along with a few other comments.

First, during the first meeting last year of members, each member having a copy of the proposed rules in their hand, no one complained about or had any change suggestions to “DISPUTES TO BE SETTLED BY A 3-PERSON DISPUTE COMMITTE. A 3 PERSON DISPUTE COMMITTEE WILL BE APPOINTED TO SERVE FOR THE PULLING SEASON. AT THE END OF EACH SEASON 1 PERSON WILL ROTATE OFF THE COMMITTEE AND ANOTHER WILL BE SELECTED BY THE PREVIOUS 3 PERSON COMMITTEE TO SERVE. IN THE EVENT ONE OF THE DISPUTE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IS NOT AT A TRACTOR PULL THEN 1 PERSON WILL BE SELECTED FROM THE MEMBERS TO SERVE FOR THAT DAY". So, if anyone had a problem with, or did not understand, how the Dispute Committee members were to be ‘appointed’, then something should have been said then. If someone has a problem with the ‘appointed’ dispute committee members, then something should have been said earlier in the season, requesting that members have a say in the problem area. (And for those of you who will probably say “the request would be squashed”, then if that were to happen, then the person(s) with the problem need to pack up and leave, and go pull somewhere else – I certainly would.)

Secondly, as was in the same proposed rules and without any complaints or suggested changes “WHEN YOU PROTEST SOMEONE THEN THEIR TRACTOR OR TRUCK AND YOUR TRACTOR OR TRUCK WILL BE CHECKED ALSO.” Something that probably needs to be added to that, as is in other organization’s rules is “A PROTEST MUST BE MADE BEFORE THE CLASS IS OVER AND BEFORE THE POSITIONS ARE ANNOUNCED. THE PROTESTOR’S TRACTOR WILL BE CHECKED FIRST. THE PROTEST WILL BE RESOLVED BY THE DISPUTE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THE PROTESTOR AND THE PROTESTEE, AND IF NECESSARY, THE PULL WILL COME TO A HALT UNTIL THE DISPUTE IS RESOLVED.”

This post is NOT to side with, or point fingers at anyone, including York, Big Daddy, DR, Wildman, the Plyler’s, or even my other half.

I’ve been pulling for 2 1/2 seasons and have always had a good time. I have enjoyed meeting new people and seeing some really good competition. I have only had the opportunity to pull 4 times outside of SATPA. During those NON-SATPA pulls, I can say that I didn’t agree with everything the other organizations did, but I did NOT get on this board to slander or libel anyone in those organizations. And given the opportunity, I will pull again with those same organizations, until I find that I have been wronged (i.e. being who I am, not what I have).

I will say that I am confused why anyone would continue to come and pull with SATPA if they don’t enjoy themselves. If convenience were the only reason I went tractor pulling, I’d certainly find something better to do with my life! As DR, Sr stated in his post about last Saturday’s pull “...it was still fun and that’s what it’s all about any way”. If you’re not having fun, then why not stay home or go find something else you consider fun.

What has made this sport turn ugly seems to be people who complain just to complain; people that don’t want to openly speak their minds, face to face; people that don’t want to compromise; and, people who just have to “hear” crap in order to light a fire. This comment is not a reflection on any organizations outside NC & SC - I’m only referring to those in the so-called local organizations.

Maybe we need someone to develop a Tractor Pulling Whining Board similar to the Tractor Bashing Board. That might help alleviate some of the stress so many people are encountering.

Have a nice day! Linda

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misery

10-08-2003 16:26:57




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 Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to THE Bulldog, 10-07-2003 11:56:13  
Have you counted the tractors at the pulls lately?A lot have left. WE only go if it is close and if there is not one in a reasonable distance.As far as the rules, anything goes for the "leader". We pulled at Oakboro out of compitition and still got DQD FOR SPEEDING. I have seen the rules being written time We pull in so that we are dqd before we unload. But thats okay we dont care about the trophy or first place, just take my money and let me pull.

Robbie O'Neal

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amazed

10-08-2003 17:08:01




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 Re: Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to misery, 10-08-2003 16:26:57  
Did i or did i not see a green John Deere pull at the pull last saturday without any mention of being DQ before unloading or even after making two very impressive pulls , still with no talk of DQ or any other form of harsh punishment this so called SATPA gang inflicts on all of its so called unhappy pullers. You were the LEADER both times so i guess they must have used your rules for that day. I'm still amazed!!!

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misery

10-09-2003 16:46:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to amazed, 10-08-2003 17:08:01  
pulled out of comp both times. Did not win a thing. We went because it was 8 miles from home. As I said before take the money and let us pull.



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Linda

10-10-2003 06:13:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to misery, 10-09-2003 16:46:44  
Robbie,
Correction - Bobby took a first place trophy home in one class, pulled O/C in other class..... ...
ASK HIM.



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Old timer

10-07-2003 16:41:41




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 Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to THE Bulldog, 10-07-2003 11:56:13  
It took you 2 pages to say absolutely nothing concrete. As far as the proposed rules in peoples hands. that's all youve ever had with plyler - Proposed rules that change whenever it benefits him and his buds. As for always being the voice of authority, you said you are a puller at the ripe old age of 2 1/2 years, that explains it - you haven't been around long enough to get on his bad side yet. Experience has been that, as long as you don't rival one of plyler's tractors or certain friends of his, and as long as you do only as told like any good yes-man peon, you are welcome. If you start to give him a run for his money though, or express an opinion, some rule will get you - even if he has to make up another one. Many drivers meetings involve announcing new rules. YOu may last longer since you are always so quick and willing to speak his mind for him - you're his best Asset! Another time - maybe 5-10 years from now, we all may just sit up and listen to you expert opinion. Until then - you have a nice day too and try to refrain from putting in your dimes worth EVERY SINGLE TIME other pullers are having a discussion - Your are like the school teacher who is all eyes. ears. and nose.

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Linda

10-07-2003 17:25:01




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 Re: Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to Old timer , 10-07-2003 16:41:41  
At least I didn't stand behind some bogus name like you and some known others are, unwilling to let people know who is speaking their asine comments. And I don't speak for anyone but myself, a-h!

And what was that you said "...refrain from putting in your dimes worth EVERY SINGLE TIME other pullers are having a discussion - Your are like the school teacher who is all eyes. ears. and nose." Time to look in the mirror!!!

Bye, Bye!!!!

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Old timer

10-07-2003 18:06:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to Linda, 10-07-2003 17:25:01  
My how time flies - has it been 5-10 years already! NO! I only exchange names with people I WANT TO TALK TO AND HEEAR BACK FROM.

We'll just see what tune you are whistlin if you ever get an chance to pucker up without kissin somethin - what was you called me - yeah - that's it.

Big Daddy - you really could do better any place else - i KNOW that's not how all ladys talk in SC. maybe just bulldogs- Fine representation for SATPA - pretty dern sad!

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BIG DADDY

10-07-2003 02:56:00




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 Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to MISERY, 10-06-2003 16:08:46  
THEY DID NOT TAKE ANY POINTS THE BACK DOOR WAS OPEN & THEY CAME IN THAT WAY WE HAVE 2 MORE PULLS I THINK MAKE THEM WITH BENDING OVER



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BIG DADDY

10-07-2003 02:59:21




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 Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to BIG DADDY, 10-07-2003 02:56:00  
THAT WAS SUPOSE TO SAY WITH OUT BENDING OVER BUT I GOT IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME PROBILY



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DANNY HOGGE SR

10-06-2003 20:25:26




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 Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to MISERY, 10-06-2003 16:08:46  
ALL I CAN SAY IS , BIG DADDY , HAS GOT A BAD FARMALL MTA TO BE LEADING IN THE POINTS UP AGAINST A TRACTOR THE QUALITY OF THE DETROIT POWERED"MIGHTY MASSEY" WHO , BY THE WAY , OUT PULLED MY STUFF IN THE 87&9700 LB CLASSES SATURDAY. BIG DADDY'S EVEN RUNNING STOCK TIRES AND A MUFFELER , YOU CAN'T EVEN HEAR THE M RUNNING AT 20 FEET AWAY AT AN IDLE . REGARDLESS OF THE OUT COME OF THE POINTS RACE THIS YEAR IN THE 9700 LB SUPER ANTIQUE CLASS BIG DADDY CAN PAT HIMSELF ON THE BACK TO BE LEADING THE POINTS THIS LATE IN THE SEASON . GOOD JOB "BIG DADDY"!! I KNOW , I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT THAT "MTA" WHEN I HAD THE CHANCE . I EXPECT THE PRICE HAS GONE UP A BUNCH SINCE THEN

GOOD LUCK TO ALL , AND HOPE I CAN MAKE IT TO THE NEXT PULL. I SURE HAD A LARGE TIME SATURDAY PULLIN WITH EVERYONE EVEN IF I DID HAVE A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH THE SPEED LIMIT HORN .I GOT D.QUED ONE TIME , BUT IT WAS STILL FUN AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT ANY WAY . DR SR

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CASEPOWER

10-06-2003 19:18:48




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 Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to MISERY, 10-06-2003 16:08:46  
Sounds like your harboring a little grudge against the SATPA boys. They ever diqualify you??? What for??? I would love to here this one!!!



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ERIC

10-06-2003 17:45:55




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 Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to MISERY, 10-06-2003 16:08:46  
You obviously did not hear right. No points were taken away from Big Daddy. The owner and operator of the Massey are 2 different people and the driver who is signed up to pull the Massey did not forfeit. Darrell was protested and nothing was found to prove that anything was squirted, therefore, he should not have been disqualified. The dispute comittee felt that more than one wrong was comitted. In the attempt to right the wrongs, the dispute committee decided to award Darrell 5 points also. This puts Darrell and Big Daddy back to the same point spread they had before the Oakboro pull. The dispute committee decided this was the best solution to the problem. I apoligize for not speaking up at the drivers meeting and explaining the outcome of the inspection of Darrell York's tractor, and the decision of the dispute committee. Big Daddy is currently leading the points race for the championship trophy in the 9700 super class.

Eric Benton
Dispute Committee Member

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Always amazed and amused!

10-06-2003 21:04:47




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 Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to ERIC, 10-06-2003 17:45:55  
It's amazing how nothing has changed at any track attached to the SATPA name and their crew. It's the only place you can get a snow job on the 4th of July and leave hotter than Hades in the dead of winter. And the hot air always blows! Over the last 4-5 years, SATPA and his gang have run off three times as many tractors and good folks as they have left now. The few good people who are still trying to hang in there have said that's it more out of convenience than enjoyment, just waiting for something else to open up close to home. Everyone has always known what they were getting when dealing with SATPA, but York always seemed to be a cut above that. HUM - you think? Always amazed at what some people have continued to take at the hands of SATPA and their gang. Most of the time, they don't see it coming because it's in the back or up the yazoo! They don't give a rat's behind about the sport of tractor pulling and fellowship. They just like throwing their weight around and calling the shots - it's a power thing. Big Daddy and the Hogges are some of the finest people in this sport, on and off the track. And Big Daddy - I wish you luck in the points race, but your chances are probably somewhere between slim and none if they have their way about it. Pride is worth a whole lot more than a plastic trophy - trophies are a dime a dozen - unless of course someone is gouging on those too. Hope you can pull it off. If you do, I will be the one smiling and shaking my head in disbelief on the sideline. If you don't bring home the trophy - you will always know you were the winner. The books may say different - but they've been wrong before, too.

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amazed

10-07-2003 18:46:38




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 Re: Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to Always amazed and amused!, 10-06-2003 21:04:47  
I am totally amazed at the comments you people are making about this so called SATPA gang and how you have been done wrong so many times by this group of people and especially the comments by BIG DADDY on how he has been wronged. Is this the same people that help you with your hitch adjustments on the scales , laugh and cut up with everyone, tries to let everyone get a decent pull with the sled on whatever dirt we have to do it on, shake your hand and tell you they enjoyed pulling with you regardless who wins. I have had several dealings with the York man while he was running the sled and pulling against him in competition and have always found him to be of the upmost help to me and other pullers while trying to make it a fun sport for everyone. Correct me if I am wrong, but on the pull saturday when DR senoir was disqualified for horn blowing, this same person you want to raise questions about, told DR to come on around and they would finish pulling anyway , because it is supposed to be about having fun. I think you people should look at the stones in your own backyard before you start wanting to throw them at other people who have done nothing to you but treat you with respect. Think about what you are saying and is this how you want people to treat you in return, comments are a dangerous thing when pointed in the wrong directions.

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BIG DADDY

10-07-2003 02:46:38




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 Re: Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to Always amazed and amused!, 10-06-2003 21:04:47  
THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT GUYS BUT YOU KNOW WHO APPOINTED THE DISPUTE COMMITTEE BUT YOU KNOW THE SAYING DO ME WRONG ONE TIME SHAME ON YOU DO ME WRONG 2 TIMES SHAME ON ME



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Flogger

10-07-2003 05:00:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to BIG DADDY, 10-07-2003 02:46:38  
Good job BIGDADDY, and good luck with those points!



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WILDMAN

10-07-2003 04:49:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to BIG DADDY, 10-07-2003 02:46:38  
I'D LIKE TO 2ND THE MOTON ABOUT BIG DADDY AND THE HOGGES, GREAT PEOPLE. AS MUCH AS I HATE TO SAY IT , IT WHO YOU ARE NOT WHAT YOU GOT.



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Questions

10-07-2003 16:41:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to WILDMAN, 10-07-2003 04:49:57  
What was that last year about brakes on the OTTPA sled?



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WILDMAN

10-08-2003 05:04:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BIG DADDY POINTS in reply to Questions, 10-07-2003 16:41:46  
NO BRAKES OTPA TRACTORS PULLERS ARE COMPETATIVE, BUT IF YOU BEAT ANY OF THEM WE WILL BE THE 1ST ONES TO TELL YOU GOOD PULLAND COME BACK AGAIN.LIKE I SAID I PULLED WITH SATPA SEVERAL YEARS AGO WON SOME POINTS CAMPTIONSHIPS HAD FUN LIKED ALL THE PULLERS, BUT THERE RULES JUST DON'T WORK WELL WITH OUR TRACTORS, AND SEVERAL OTHERS THAT ,I USE TO PULL THERE. I'M NOT BASHING ANYONE,I JUST WISH THIR RULES WERE CLOSER TO THE REST OF THE OTHER ASSO. IN THE AREA.

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