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In reply to the jd m and the super A

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jd puller

09-17-2001 16:18:28

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I just have to say that I have built M's and MT's that Basicly nothing could beat. The only tractor that could out pull it was a little ford 9-n that had the sherman low range transmission in it. And evan then on a soft track my M's and Mt's would win all the time. But on a hard track the ford would out power me because of gear ratios. So in conclusion I would have to say that a M could out pull a super A.

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Let me be sure I understand you...

09-18-2001 16:09:12

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Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to jd puller, 09-17-2001 16:18:28

So what you are saying is that if you build the John Deere M motor up enough, you can outpull a stock Farmall Super A? Is that it?

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John in Maryland

09-18-2001 13:05:03

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Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to jd puller, 09-17-2001 16:18:28

Thanks for the input yall. I was just wondering between the two cause both are similar in size. I have a friend that has and A he wants to pull against my M sometime if I can ever get the time to work on the thing. I was just wondering what my chances were! His is stock and so is mine, so there shouldn't be any real surprises. I'll let yall know how it works out.

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AC puller

09-17-2001 16:46:51

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Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to jd puller, 09-17-2001 16:18:28

Apparently you never pulled against a AC WC.

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Greg H

09-19-2001 06:24:10

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Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to AC puller, 09-17-2001 16:46:51

WC are more Jd A and B size, and Farmall H, Not the little boogers JD M or Farmall A. WC's are wicked little tractors when built up though.

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The Dukester

09-17-2001 18:40:27

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Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to AC puller, 09-17-2001 16:46:51

Uh, excuse me, but, ain't the WC usually in a different class than JD M's and Farmall A's? Like they got a lot higher hp rating. Yeah, WC's do well against JD B's and Farmall H's and that seems fair, but against them little one row tractors don't seem right. Your AC B's and C's do good in with the lightweights. It seems like just a "bully in the schoolyard" when a high stock hp tractors skinnys down and takes on little fellas. Ain't that what happens when they can't cut it in their own class?

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AC puller

09-18-2001 04:32:51

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Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to The Dukester, 09-17-2001 18:40:27

Classes are set by weight,not horsepower the guy
said no one could beat him in his class.Why would
you penalize AC for being ahead of its time building alot of power into a light tractor? Or is
it that it ain't "fair" until you jimmy the rules
so only Deeres can win?

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Dale W.

09-18-2001 12:03:50

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Re: Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to AC puller, 09-18-2001 04:32:51

So if it's only weight and your AC WC isn't a bully, hang your weights on to your hearts content and bring her on against my JD G. Now isn't that just about as silly.

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AC puller

09-18-2001 16:20:05

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to Dale W., 09-18-2001 12:03:50

Think you missed something in the translation
we were talking about pulling tractors of the same
weight without any added weight and for their orginal weight ACs were among the most powerful.

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joecool

09-18-2001 16:02:48

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to Dale W., 09-18-2001 12:03:50

I have a 53 allis chalmers ca, it is stock, in fact it has 1 hi comp. piston, and 3 low comp. piston in it, ( parts from junk tractors) and I have had it weighed at over 5000 and it will out pull a jd g, super m, or whatever, even a wc. but it competes in 3500 class and wins and beats modified wc's and other jd's who drop weight and run cut tires.

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Greg H.

09-19-2001 06:31:32

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to joecool, 09-18-2001 16:02:48

I have an Alis CA, and While I like the little thing for raking hay, and sickle bar mowing the pasture feilds, it is not by any means a pulling tractor, and if you are talking about outpulling G's or Farmall M's with a Stock AC CA you are literally full of crap. Either you have your tractor engine blue printed or you don't know what model you own, and maybe you've been riding on a WD all these years.

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Joeblow

09-18-2001 20:48:02

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to joecool, 09-18-2001 16:02:48

Joe Blow Lay off the crack pipe,I suppose you run that CA in Div IV too. It would probably put up a mean fight against a 500+ cube farmall or oliver.

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WEL

09-19-2001 05:24:38

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to Joeblow, 09-18-2001 20:48:02

joecool, I am an AC man from way back. Don't tell me a stock CA can outpull a decent running JD "G" or a Super "M". I would like to see it happen but it would only happen in my dreams. Wake up. Miller time is over.

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joecool

09-19-2001 05:17:10

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to Joeblow, 09-18-2001 20:48:02

what is div iv? it sounds cute. Usually I pull against other stock tractors, it makes no sense to put all those cubes in a tractor then take all the weight out of it to win. Why don't you add a few tons and see if that red thing will put with a stock big tractor, I doubt it. put it in low gear, stock governor which is about 1300 rpms, and stock size tires, not a set of cut 38's, bring it on. I beat alot of big hp tractors recently in Lawrenceburg, Tn who dropped weight to try to pick on a little ac. HA!

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Greg H.

09-19-2001 06:40:16

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to joecool, 09-19-2001 05:17:10

Buddy I hate to be a bugger towards you, but I own a CA, and it has been rebuilt and runs perfectly. It also has trouble plowing with a little 2 12 inch bottom plow. Something I might add is easily done with my fathers 8n Ford. I've also tinkered around with the bigger jD G, and while it's no barn burner in the stock mode, it is one heck of alot more tractor than the CA. The neighbors Farmall M in My oppinion is stronger than the G I've used. I'm Sorry, but the boys you've been pulling against either arn't running worth a crap, or your tractor is anything but stock. Otherwise I can't be done.

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09-23-2001 07:37:34

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to Greg H., 09-19-2001 06:40:16

Sounds as if you have a weak CA. Mine handles 2x16 plow real well. Maybe yours isn't mounted so you would need to add more weight. A JD G is in a totally different class.

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JDGnut

09-19-2001 08:51:22

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to Greg H., 09-19-2001 06:40:16

A G in the 5000 lbs class is getting light for a G. I'm sure beat him on set-up, and not HP. A sled with good down force will make a 5000lb G stand up.. Where U were able to add weight to the front of your tractor and keep your traction, the JD G was light in the front... This is why set-up is so important... I love picking on more powerful 730's with my G, when they just stand-up and spin out... JDGnut

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joecool

09-19-2001 15:48:45

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: in reply to the jd m and the super A in reply to JDGnut, 09-19-2001 08:51:22

I know it is hard to believe but it really pulls great. and it is stock, rebuilt with junk parts. As for as the weight brackets, i bought some factory frame weights, and we have used a cultivator bracket turned over to hold suitcase weights. we also have a bracket on the rear for suitcase weights. although we seldom use them anymore, tired of manhandling the weights.not worth it.

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