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Ted

12-03-2003 11:17:32




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I do a little pulling with my "M" and am trying to balance it with front weights. I am building a bracket for the front and I noticed some brackets extend straight out from the front while some go out and angle down. Is there a physical reason for the difference or is it an appearence thing or is it easier to hang suitcase wieghts on the lower angle type bracket?




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Ohio M Puller

12-03-2003 11:41:18




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 Re: Front Wts in reply to Ted , 12-03-2003 11:17:32  
Ted,
I use to wonder about this myself till I had a discussion with a physics instructor friend of mine. He showed me how you can make lighter weight have a larger down force of pressure do to the position it is to the pivit point (the rear tires). So if you think about a lever and how it is harder to pry something up when it is lower then the level position it makes sense that a lower weight bracket will allow you to run less weight on the nose as one that is straight out. One other thing to keep in mind is how easy it is to load your tractor on the trailer you plan to haul it on, hate to see you tare up the ground or trailer with the bracket if you make it to low. However no weight bracket system is the best answer, you just gotto learn how to untilize whatever you have. My 2 cents, sure I will hear some extra $hit from some of those out here on my thoughts cause that is just how people are getting to be on this forum anymore.

Ohio M Puller

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rraymond

12-03-2003 12:12:34




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 Re: Re: Front Wts in reply to Ohio M Puller, 12-03-2003 11:41:18  
we built ours too low for getting on the scales had to go back and redo them so the weights would clear the scales and ramps. so many different height of ramps on to the scales. just my 2 cents worth. but the lower the better don't have to lift the weights so high when the temps 100 degrees.ha ha



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ChadS

12-03-2003 20:14:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Front Wts in reply to rraymond, 12-03-2003 12:12:34  
I have done this too, Ohio M puller, hit it right on the nose,, It changes the "pivot" point of the frame of the tractor,, Like he did say it would take less weight out front by keeping the weights below the hitch point, Ever notice how a trctor with a low frontend does not raise the front as much as a tractor with a stock stance? Same principal,, Just my 1 cents worth ChadS



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Andy

12-04-2003 07:55:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Front Wts in reply to ChadS, 12-03-2003 20:14:46  
I can see lower wieghts helping at first when they are below the center of gravity but as the front end comes up and passes that axis I think it comes down to distance from rear axle. When the front end comes up the distance from the axle to the wieghts,(as far as gravity is concerned) is being reduced. hanging the wieghts low is a way to increase that distance a bit as it's trailing behind the axis when the front end comes up. And like the others said, you don't have to lift the wieghts so high.

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