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How can i soup up a Super C?

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John Sublett

10-09-2001 18:14:41




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I've got a Super c that i want to put to the test and rebuild it and pull it i need tips to make it scream down the track. I've got a few john deere's to bury along with some allis chamlers. I want to leave them in the dirt.

Thanks john




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kl

10-26-2001 20:02:49




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 Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to John Sublett , 10-09-2001 18:14:41  
I've recently put together a Super C and it does great in our club. I pull in the 2850 ( 2nd gear )& 3350 ( 1st gear ) classes and we do have a 3.5 mph rule. Using the combine motor would probably be the easiest but I used the original Super C motor. I got 160 CID without having to stroke the crank and got the compression up( 3 & 9/16" pistons from Ross ). I had bigger valves put in the head. My only problem is keeping it from spinning.

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John

10-14-2001 20:21:29




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 Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to John Sublett , 10-09-2001 18:14:41  
John, we pull a Super C in the true Farm Stock classes here in Upstate, NY and do quite well against some of the tractors mentioned here. (We are color blind, so there is no brand bashing here, we pull a Ford 2N, a Super C, a Super H, a Super M, and a JD70.) Problem is finding pulls where they will enforce the "stock" part of the rules. (We are bone stock except where an engine needs to be overbored to run properly due to wear.) In these classes set up; tires, pressures, weight and drawbar heights are of the utmost importance. It is our experience that in the 3500# class, a Super C's traction will usually more than make up the difference in HP between it and a WC. Don't bother to weight up and go after 'em in a heavier class though, when they get better traction, they will beat ya up! In the "suped up" divisions, I don't know. We like true stock pulling. we have this stock 2N that would amaze ya, but everyone will tell me I'm full of it, so I'll stop here. Have fun with the Super C, and take solace in the fact that it is about 100 times handier for normal tractor chores than a WC Allis, and before everyone jumps on me, this is an opinion base upon my experiences with many tractors. I harbor no ill will toward AC, probably even find a couple somewhere in our barn. Pete

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missery

10-13-2001 04:50:27




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 Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to John Sublett , 10-09-2001 18:14:41  
are you pullin farm stock? if you are ,you will do well.



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Slo

10-12-2001 16:04:33




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 Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to John Sublett , 10-09-2001 18:14:41  
I'm not a Farmalittle man, but several Super C's around run real tough. I think they start with the 51hp combine motor, and go from there with the normal poke and stroke. I know that there are some that pull at Sigourney Ia. that are just plain tough. Mark Gilmore, Jack Dodge, etc. Saw one running in 4500, and running with the big dogs.

Best bet is to find the combine motor first from what I understand. Sorry I can't help with the model.

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Mr. J

10-11-2001 21:07:29




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 Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to John Sublett , 10-09-2001 18:14:41  
Wowee, everyone in this discussion did an excellent job of answering this man's question. (sarcasm) There are times when we should put down our different colored gloves and try to help those in need. This guy asked a simple question about how to increase horsepower in his tractor. I mean, yeah it's easy to put down every color of tractor on the internet, but we all know that tractors are as good as the work that went into them. It seems like everyone is busy trying to put down the competition with words. These things are settled on the track. Bragging rights are earned, not typed. So, for the sake of those who are using this site as a resource, please quit filling up the forums with "My Balls are Bigger Than Your Balls" talk. If you wanna brag about tractor colors, then start your own discussion. But if a person is asking for help, then PLEASE HELP THEM!

Mr. J

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Minnie Mo

10-11-2001 19:14:00




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 Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to John Sublett , 10-09-2001 18:14:41  
You are working on the wrong color tractor to be pulling. You should be pulling a Minneapolis Moline Z or a Allis Chamblers WC for the weight class you would be pulling in they have twice the HP. A "C" Farmall is a gutless wonder. Sorry just the facts



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Rich

10-10-2001 15:02:03




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 Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to John Sublett , 10-09-2001 18:14:41  
I don't pull Farmall's or A/C's, but we a guy in our club that pulls a Super C and gives the A/C and Olivers all they can handle in the 2500, 3200 and 3800 # classes. I don't have any particulars on what he has done, and this isn't a big money club, but it can be done.



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Pull X

10-11-2001 04:32:25




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 Re: Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to Rich, 10-10-2001 15:02:03  
Must be some pretty sorry running Olivers and ACs
in the 3800lb class



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Rich

10-11-2001 17:28:21




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 Re: Re: Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to Pull X, 10-11-2001 04:32:25  
As they say "come on down" and see how you stack up against the competition.



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Jim (Mi)

10-10-2001 12:36:58




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 Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to John Sublett , 10-09-2001 18:14:41  
I cannot speak for the JD's, but the Allis I think would be very tough. A stock pull would kill you. A Super C has 123cid. A Allis WC or WD has a 201cid. Super C DB HP 20. Allis DB HP 30. Then when you enter modified, they do the same modifications as you. The problem is the weight is next to each other, but the motor's are not even close. My father-in-laws 200 boggs down when pulling a five foot brush hog in certain conditions. I go over the same ground as a test, and screamed thru. I like the feel on top of the 200, and would love to have one or Super C (same), but in my, and my father-in-laws, (opinion) the Farmall gets killed.

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receipe

10-10-2001 04:34:23




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 Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to John Sublett , 10-09-2001 18:14:41  
Jack up the gas cap and pull a AC WC in under it,
then lower the cap.



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You forgot....

10-10-2001 10:57:58




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 Re: Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to receipe, 10-10-2001 04:34:23  
After all that, I would replace the gas cap.



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JohnDeere2Cylinder

10-28-2001 16:58:32




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 Re: Re: Re: How can i soup up a Super C? in reply to You forgot...., 10-10-2001 10:57:58  
Best two posts I have read for away. I am still laughing! Thanks.



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