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Dave

01-16-2004 17:40:11

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I am interested in buying a large antique or classic pulling tractor and don't know what to go with. I dont know whether to go with mm ih jd case or mh. Can anyone tell me some of the strong ones. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

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Mopower

01-19-2004 09:55:41

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

MMs have the most options when it comes to building an engine. I would say a GVI or GB would probably be your best option depending on what class you are in. Interchangeable parts are the key.....BIG PARTS. 6cyl are 425, 451, 504, 585, 605, and the monster 800. All fairly interchangeable. But I warn you I am biased...my blood is gold. Case builds a pretty mean tractor too. A little harder to build a motor, but tough machines.

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Josh

01-19-2004 05:59:30

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

A big Oliver with a detroit is the best if you ask me. S99 GM, 990, 1900, 1950 GM. Pulls hard and sounds like nothing else

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dupontwarrior

01-18-2004 11:57:15

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

Do you really think you are going to get a single answer with this question? Best thing to do is ressearch results because whatever anyone pulls with...that is going to be the best! of course, it will be fun to read the follow ups and see how much trash is thrown! :)

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Jeff

01-17-2004 20:33:26

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

if your gonna stay in the "stock" class you can go with an Oliver 880 or 990 also. I have heard the 88's are good up to about 8000 but I haven't weighted mine up tht much yet. I do know that up to 6500 I never run out of power and usually do pretty good. Alot of it depends on balance reading the track tires and luck.

If your gonan pull in the open classes or hot rod I would go with about anything with a 6 cylinder. I don't have nothing agaist the others really but it is alot easier to build a 6 banger than the others.

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buickanddeere

01-17-2004 17:56:39

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

The larger/heavier tractor is more difficult to tow for the average Joe. So the heavier classes will give you a better chance at a ribbon. A 5000lb trailer/tractor class III is the limit for most pullers so the 2500/3500/4500 lb classes are busiest. 10,000lb trailer+tractor class IV trailer/haul vehicle certainly limits the class sizes from 5000lb to 7000lb. Only locals or people with money to spend pull in the 8000lb and over classes where a class "A" trailer and licence is required.

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Farmall Daddy

01-17-2004 08:02:40

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

Really depends on what class you would like to pull in, what tire you would like to run, division, or row crop or standard. These are the things that you will have to consider. The standards are good to get up into the 10000 and up. I pull a 1962 Farmall 560 in the 7500-8500, and the 8500-10000, and I can beat the 730's, and the 620's. If you want a standard, I would have to recommend buying a 660 diesel, but if you can find a gas jog, run fluid in the tires, 18 inch drawbar, and if you want to spend the money put a combine motor in it, or an 806 gas motor and run the 2400 rpm's. 18-4-36's would pull good, but if you build it right, go with the 20's. Have to take it easy with the torque though. A W-9 would be another good standard puller. With over 4000 pounds of torque, she would pull good if she is bored out. A 620 John Deere in our area can compete with a 4020, and at the end, they call it a tie cause they can't beat eachother. If you pull over 13500, buy a tractor that has a strong enough rear end to hold the strain. Good Luck!!!

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David

01-17-2004 10:45:58

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Re: Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Farmall Daddy, 01-17-2004 08:02:40

Boy, I would think if a W9 made that much torque, everybody would be pulling one! With 4000 pounds of torque, that equals over 1100 HP at 1500 rpm's! I didn't realize my Super WD9 ran that good, I always thought it was a little gutless.

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IH1066puller

01-17-2004 14:52:19

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Re: Re: Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to David, 01-17-2004 10:45:58

I have heard of a W-9 with 3700 pounds of torque before. Better make sure that you know the formula to give you proof.

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David

01-17-2004 15:21:56

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to IH1066puller, 01-17-2004 14:52:19

HP=torquexrpm/5252

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......:S

01-18-2004 06:30:28

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to David, 01-17-2004 15:21:56

maybe he means torque to the ground, not from the motor..... .????? ?????

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Farmall Daddy

01-18-2004 07:18:21

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to ......:S, 01-18-2004 06:30:28

Yes, that is what I meant. The amount of torque that is at the drawbar of a W9.

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mike

01-17-2004 07:35:50

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

i have a wd9 that is forsale in western missouri. bored to 4 5/8 inches and a cam grind. all ready to go. lots of trophy's to go with it.

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IH Boy

01-17-2004 15:15:42

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Re: Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to mike, 01-17-2004 07:35:50

WOW, since they are 4.5 bore stock, you really went hog wild with the boring bar! All the way to 4 5/8? WOW!!!!! !!!!

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mike

01-17-2004 20:21:16

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Re: Re: Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to IH Boy, 01-17-2004 15:15:42

check your specifications, they were 4.4 inches bore.

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Joe

01-17-2004 02:47:31

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

any big moline or case not quite sure what you mr by classic if s below 65 1206 ih or D21

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buickanddeere

01-16-2004 20:28:55

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

Something that can legally use or fit a 18.4x38 Firestone 23 degree Traction Field and Road. Find tires that are old,hard, not rotten and have the tread worn 1/2 off. Maybe some of it worn off while accidentally spinning backwards on concrete. Set drawbar at max height and tinker with length while moving front rear ballast. Keep drawbar short as possible to limit bending and hitch height drop. Winning may not require cheating but does require carefully reading the rule book for things not mentioned.

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tractorboy

01-16-2004 20:09:49

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

I've seen real good 730 diesels beat the socks off the big standards even if it was nothing more than good balance. Take that same good 730 and juice it up a little then their no problem.

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01-16-2004 18:58:53

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

I beat Rs and 830s with my W9 and Super WD9 IHs. All comes down to weight and balance.

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mike's 600

01-16-2004 18:54:04

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

Everybody knows a CASE "600" is the best tractor to pull!!! 6 cyl. POWER

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farmallgod

01-16-2004 18:22:18

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

I would love to say a farmall but I think the best Big tractor I have ever seen pull is either an oliver 99 with the 3-71 detroit or a moline gbd. My first choice would be the oliver An 830 can't even come close to neither one.

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farmall

01-16-2004 18:40:48

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Re: Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to farmallgod, 01-16-2004 18:22:18

JD's are for show and tell for school children.
They would'nt hold a candle to a GVI MM.
2 cyl. = put put
6 cyl = POWER!
If you don't believe me, watch Brad Begamens MM
There is'nt a 2 cyl deere that compares to Brad's
Moline.

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52 A Boy

01-16-2004 18:11:11

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Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to Dave, 01-16-2004 17:40:11

A John Deere 830, if your gonna run in the stock classes i think that would be your best way to go. I have never seen one power out.
52 A Boy

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trapper

01-17-2004 14:08:42

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Re: Re: Best big pulling tractor in reply to 52 A Boy, 01-16-2004 18:11:11

it dont matter much what color as long as you got a lot of green (money) to put in it that can make any color pull good

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