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Ohio H

01-25-2004 13:50:18

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Chad; would performance increase if the plugs were indexed. Are indexing washers available for a plug of this size. Oh thanks for the past response!..... H

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BUDD

01-25-2004 15:12:55

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Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to Ohio H, 01-25-2004 13:50:18

Ohio H;

They say indexing does help, but you will never see the increase. It is so small that it realy does not make a difference.

BUDD

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ChadS

01-25-2004 14:51:09

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Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to Ohio H, 01-25-2004 13:50:18

I am not for sure what this term is. If you mean moving the electrode up, or down, it really is not nessisary with a plug like this. As far as the seal gasket is concerned, a seal ring off of any 18mm spark plug will work with out having to cut the tapered edge off. Chad

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DaveWis

01-27-2004 02:21:31

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Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to ChadS, 01-25-2004 14:51:09

Not to be a smarta$$, but indexing your plugs is using different shims to get the electrodes all pointing in the same direction with respect to the combustion chamber. Sometimes it has to be done to clear a part of the piston dome. There is a small hp gain to be had by doing it but you will only see it on a dyno. It is common in the upper levels of racing where fractions of a hp can mean winning or losing. Most of us would never see or feel the difference.

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ChadS

01-27-2004 07:49:04

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Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to DaveWis, 01-27-2004 02:21:31

Thanks for explaining that to me! Chad

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BUDD

01-25-2004 15:16:28

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Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to ChadS, 01-25-2004 14:51:09

CHad;

Why only .032 plug gap? Have you tried a bigger gap? I went all the way up to .110 gap on my "A" last year. It did not work once installed in the tractor, but boy it looked good outside. I ended up runnig some where around .055.

BUDD

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farmall

01-25-2004 15:37:35

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Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to BUDD, 01-25-2004 15:16:28

With the older dist.s they cannot take big gaps. I found on my 'M' with pro street jacobs that anything over .035 would arc in the cap and cause engine to miss. I am also running IH dist. If you converted to gm's hei dist. (or your favorite brand), then you could run a bigger gap. Just my 3 cents worth.

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ChadS

01-25-2004 15:22:01

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Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to BUDD, 01-25-2004 15:16:28

More gap on high compression blows out the spark like a birthday candle, You can run more gap if your ingnition can handle throwing a spark strong enough to keep it arching properly. They say,, using MSD,, you can open up the gap, up to .55-.065 in that area, tried that, kept burning up condensers, it has to do with the resistance in the wires, coil output, etc.

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TimC

01-26-2004 13:28:48

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Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to ChadS, 01-25-2004 15:22:01

Why do you have a condenser installed with an msd?

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ChadS

01-26-2004 16:54:54

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to TimC, 01-26-2004 13:28:48

Are you saying I can eliminate the condenser using an MSD? Never tried it. Chad

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wildman

01-28-2004 07:44:02

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to ChadS, 01-26-2004 16:54:54

chads i have never run a condenser ,why cut back to 8volts?

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TimC

01-26-2004 19:08:21

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to ChadS, 01-26-2004 16:54:54

I have removed 3 using the msc 6al and never had a problem. Multiple Spark Discharge tells me the msd box has some sort of electronic capacitance discharge unit that does what the standard cap does. They work with dist (electronic ignition) that use a stator and reluctor and you know they don't have a cap. Its just a maganet that passes a hermetically sealed contact.

Try it.

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ChadS

01-26-2004 21:26:27

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to TimC, 01-26-2004 19:08:21

I have a 6al,, I am putting on the 460H, still has points,, can I remove the condenser and not burn up the points?

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TimC

01-27-2004 06:03:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plu in reply to ChadS, 01-26-2004 21:26:27

Yes.

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ChadS

01-27-2004 07:50:54

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on in reply to TimC, 01-27-2004 06:03:04

Thanks Tim. I appreciate that information. I made the mistake of running the condenser, so it must have possibly cut the amount of spark to the plugs? Chad

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BUDD

01-25-2004 15:26:00

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Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to ChadS, 01-25-2004 15:22:01

CHad;

You said you ran points in your Hs. You are now going to electronic ignition. Let me know how you like the electronic when you get it in. I am still running points and rite now am happy with them.

BUDD

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ChadS

01-25-2004 15:36:12

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to BUDD, 01-25-2004 15:26:00

Terry put one on the Massey 101,, I looked it over, and watched the spark,, IT IS WORTH IT!! there is a huge difference in the spark kernal! I got lit up by it, Could not move my hand for 20 minutes!! LOL,, I think it would help a JD tremndously,, bigger spark, more explosion!! and more burned fuel. Economy would pick up, thus, hp would increase.

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dctom

01-25-2004 15:31:29

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to BUDD, 01-25-2004 15:26:00

BUDD, PUT ELECTRONIC IGNATION ON THE DC, .60 GAP I CALL THAT GAP J D A EATER DCTOM

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BUDD

01-25-2004 15:45:26

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to dctom, 01-25-2004 15:31:29

DCTom;

Anything as ugly as that DC has got to taste bad. I would not want my little "A" to get an upset tummy So I have done some research and have found that if I put one bottle of Maalox to 5 gallons of gas it will keep my "A" running like a champ after it sucks that DC up and spits it out next year!

BUDD )'';''(

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BUD BARENIE

01-28-2004 06:39:21

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to BUDD, 01-25-2004 15:45:26

IN WHAT CLASS ARE WE DOING ALL THIS 7 COURSE MEAL STUFF !!!! I PREFFFER A LITTLE STEAK SAUCE
WHEN EATING GREEN EGGS AND DC'S

HOW YA ALL DOIN JUST GOT BACK FROM FLORIDA MONDAY NIGH, DAUGHTER TOOK FIFTH PLACE OVERALL OUT OF 113 GIRL'S IN GYMNASTIC'S MEET !~!~~

GOOD TO READ ALL THE TWISTIN AGAIN !!! LOL

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ChadS

01-25-2004 15:37:21

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ChadS, More on plugs in reply to dctom, 01-25-2004 15:31:29

Hi Tom!! Heck of a difference in the spark, isn't there!! Chad

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