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Helium?!?

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Phil K.

08-04-2004 10:35:25




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Has anyone ever heard of using Helium to fill their tires instead of regular air. im assuming it would be pumped in to make the tractor lighter?!? because helium is lighter than air. just wondering if anyone heard of it or has tried it, please let me know! i need to shave off 40 lbs from my tractor, thought this would be an easy way if its true.




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buickanddeere

08-06-2004 05:42:17




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to Phil K., 08-04-2004 10:35:25  
Put a automotive rad in it, an aluminium platform for your feet, aluminium steering shaft, plastic gas tank and a light weight seat/battery box.



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Mopower

08-05-2004 11:18:28




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to Phil K., 08-04-2004 10:35:25  
Greetings Phillip. Helium is very expensive and may result in very little gain. Try using hot air as a substitute. It is light and abundant judging by the responses to your question. -Only in good humor fellas.

Mr. Hot Air himself



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Mr. Professor

08-04-2004 19:29:56




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to Phil K., 08-04-2004 10:35:25  
Actually, we already went down this road once in the quest to loose weight, called all the different places in the country that handle gasses, all of them had the same answer (after they quit laughing!) Yes, if you could get helium in your tires, it WOULD help on weight believe it or not, but the problem is that the amount of helium to do this with would do some serious damage to the pocket book. And the biggest problem is that helium escapes through rubber very easily, especially the kind of rubber in tires, you would have to refill your tires every weekend!! We decided just to cut some more cast off!!

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Jason

08-04-2004 16:03:28




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to Phil K., 08-04-2004 10:35:25  
Drain some gear oil out of it. You could drain about 40 lbs. worth and your gears would still be getting protection.



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G-MAN

08-05-2004 07:38:32




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to Jason, 08-04-2004 16:03:28  
Not much. 40 pounds would be about 5 gallons, and a "G" only holds about 7 or so gallons in the rear-end and trans - hardly enough to cover the bottom of the case. I'd be worried about throwing all the oil out of the reduction gear housing and having it run dry, particularly as your bull gears aren't spinning fast enough to do a lot of slinging. Pretty risky to save 40 pounds. If that's all he needs, he'd be better off to pull the big battery and install a lawn mower battery once he has it running and only put in about two gallons of gas.

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Jason

08-05-2004 12:42:47




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to G-MAN, 08-05-2004 07:38:32  
I guess your right. Im not too familiar with the JD's



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G-MAN

08-05-2004 13:41:10




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to Jason, 08-05-2004 12:42:47  
I think there's guys that do what you mentioned, but I seem to recall that they use some sort of expandable foam or something as filler to take up the empty space and keep some oil up around the gears when doing so. There's just easier and safer ways to lose that small amount of weight. If the tractor has a Power-Trol on it, you can knock off 40 lbs easy by pulling the valve, cylinder and rockshaft. Probably closer to 100 lbs. You won't get as light as a flat back, but it's a lot cheaper than buying one.

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Redman

08-05-2004 20:19:04




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to G-MAN, 08-05-2004 13:41:10  
spray foam insulation always worked for us before we figured out how to make a nice aluminum pan for the rear.
we have never done this to a green one,but the red ones you can block the passage fairly easy to keep oil in the tranny.
with the spray foam you just clean out the rear and spray it in,cut if needed after it dries and go over it with silicone.
messy but it does work,the rear on a 1066 will hold about 7 lbs of spray foam but you take out about 40 gallons of oil.
we run 1 gallon in the rear and 1 gallon in the tranny.

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don

08-04-2004 13:59:06




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to Phil K., 08-04-2004 10:35:25  
It is lighter than air but compressed in the tire even at 10lbs. the helium would not give you any
advantage.



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Charles Poosch

08-04-2004 13:36:16




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to Phil K., 08-04-2004 10:35:25  
Lose the cast center rear wheels on your G. Get some pressed steel wheels, you'll lose more than 40 lbs...

CP



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Phil K.

08-04-2004 14:20:06




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to Charles Poosch, 08-04-2004 13:36:16  
i was thinking about putting the pressed stell on my g, but i figure im doing okay now with what i have with you guys in the 6500 class. i was just tryin to get a couple pounds off for the armada fair. i'll probibly just take off some extra metal off it. my dad was the one that had the bright idea of the helium in the tires, thought i would be interesting to see the replies.



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Dick L

08-04-2004 11:48:18




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to Phil K., 08-04-2004 10:35:25  
easyest way to shed forty pounds for most pullers is to not eat for a coupla weeks. I was givin the scales guy heck cause I was twenty pounds over this year than last year. And I was right to cause I got on the scales by my self and it showed me 20 pounds as well. He wouldn't make any adjustments even though I showed him he was wrong.



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FARMALL

08-04-2004 10:57:39




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 Re: Helium?!? in reply to Phil K., 08-04-2004 10:35:25  
Dont wast your time. For the volume you are talking about you would be lucky to loose a couple of ounces. You would loose more weight by going to the bathroom before you pull.



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