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Brian/Pa

08-09-2004 19:13:34

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here she is!

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rickkuwait

08-11-2004 07:18:40

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Brian/Pa, 08-09-2004 19:13:34

hello just dropping a note here from kuwait sorry i missed the action in portesville pa i just also wanted to comment on the farmall m it did well i heard and hope to get to see it pull in person next yr but i think the 34000 is pulling the chains of people on this site i know within a few hundred pounds of what the 720 weight and have it all on paper from yr before and it weighed slight under 30000 and on the farmall M this looking at picture would put the m between 25000 and 30000 without the pen and paper and that is counting if he had ballast in tires but either way both teams did alot of work to get to this point and just for the record the john deere 720 did win and only needed two cylinders to do just that

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Don

08-11-2004 20:40:01

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Re: 34000# M in reply to rickkuwait, 08-11-2004 07:18:40

Better get a better calculator! I beleive the JD was heavier than 30,000 and I know the Farmall did weigh at least 34,000 or dam close.

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Brian/Pa

08-11-2004 12:55:57

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Re: 34000# M in reply to rickkuwait, 08-11-2004 07:18:40

hey Rick, how ya doing over there? i hope keeping your head up and your arse down!
gladto hear from ya, hoping ya get in soon, that B needs to be run!

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rickkuwait

08-13-2004 13:28:56

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Brian/Pa, 08-11-2004 12:55:57

hey brian. how are you doing i good. hey maybe next year we will pull a IH i not picky as long as it wins. hey did you see the photo of father wearing IH hat. He not picky either but who knows we may have to tune the deere up some maybe just a set of plugs would have given it a full pull on the last hook but knowing father he would rather not spend the five dollars for them but i dont know if we have the knowledge to tune a tractor what do you think anyhow hope to shake your hand in a few days all ya for bill he is more of a ford fanatic but he couldnt get anybody to donate a ford for the pull to hang on the front (a little humor) any new projects in the works

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redcub

08-10-2004 17:05:05

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Brian/Pa, 08-09-2004 19:13:34

What model of Chevy did they use to pull the tractor with all 34,000 lb.?

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Don

08-10-2004 20:55:04

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Re: 34000# M in reply to redcub, 08-10-2004 17:05:05

Chevy 2500HD, gasser, 8100 series, allision tranny. Best of the best. LOL

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farmallred

08-10-2004 19:38:35

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Re: 34000# M in reply to redcub, 08-10-2004 17:05:05

It was a dodge thank you lol with CUMMINS power

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Shaggy

08-10-2004 06:46:58

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Brian/Pa, 08-09-2004 19:13:34

What is the purpose of weighing a tractor down that heavy? And 6 people moving the weight one at a time is a smart move and I wouldn't mess with them!

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David H

08-10-2004 04:12:48

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Brian/Pa, 08-09-2004 19:13:34

I'm with Shutt. With that much weight on the axles that far out AND turning them too? WHEW! I wouldn't drive it. Hey let me guess....He spun out in 4th? ha ha

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Ron..NE ILL

08-10-2004 03:59:23

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Re: 34000# M....are you sure? in reply to Brian/Pa, 08-09-2004 19:13:34

Looks like a lot of wt, but are we sure it's 34K? I don't count that many weights piled on 5K frame. Maybe I'm missing something. I'd sure think it would break an axle.

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trkr

08-11-2004 07:09:55

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Re: 34000# M....are you sure? in reply to Ron..NE ILL, 08-10-2004 03:59:23

Could have lead shot in the tires an old construction equipment trick when you really want to put some weight on a piece of machinery.

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08-09-2004 22:25:24

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Brian/Pa, 08-09-2004 19:13:34

wow....i thought a 8600# AC WC was wild

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Shaggy

08-09-2004 21:43:28

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Brian/Pa, 08-09-2004 19:13:34

I am not sure what going on in the picture. Maybe I am not seeing the whole picture either. Is this a pull?? Oh and who handled all of the weights?

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Don

08-09-2004 21:59:26

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Shaggy, 08-09-2004 21:43:28

The Pit crew (6 people) 1 weight at a time

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Don 2

08-10-2004 11:22:49

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Don, 08-09-2004 21:59:26

i think at the end of the night there was around 20 of us takin it off dont ya think??

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Shutt30

08-09-2004 20:20:43

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Brian/Pa, 08-09-2004 19:13:34

How the hell did it support all that weight with out breaking in half?

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CASEPOWER

08-09-2004 19:25:44

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Brian/Pa, 08-09-2004 19:13:34

Very impressive!! Now from the argument below, I can"t see how it would be hard to hook up with a tractor that weighs 34,000 and I have seen plenty of 720 deeres with creaper gears, but never seen a M with one. I was figuring on seeing a MTA running the low side. Which tractor was moving the fastest?? In other words, which tractor was using engine torque and which was using the gears to multiply the torque??

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G-MAN

08-10-2004 05:51:10

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Re: 34000# M in reply to CASEPOWER, 08-09-2004 19:25:44

The "M" is higher-geared, providing the Deere was in first gear. Why couldn't the "M" with more torque and more weight not pull as far as the 720? Apparently the Deere is more efficient at putting the power to the ground, even if it has less, correct? Less weight and more distance.

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Ironman

08-10-2004 06:10:07

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Re: 34000# M in reply to G-MAN, 08-10-2004 05:51:10

There is a creeper gear for the M. In the parts book I believe it is called "low low". So it could have had a 1.5 mph gear in it.

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CASEPOWER

08-10-2004 07:42:27

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Ironman, 08-10-2004 06:10:07

I would say that it did. I can't see one pulling that much weight at stock 1st gear speed.

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CASEPOWER

08-10-2004 06:02:58

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Re: 34000# M in reply to G-MAN, 08-10-2004 05:51:10

So you prefer to slide passed my theory that the deere was using low gears to multiply torque!! I don"t know that the tractors didn"t power out!! Not sure what happened. But if you have ever seen a M pull first and a 720 with a creaper pull first which I am sure you have, then I know darn well you know what I am talking about. You can move a sled with 5 hp. if you gear it low enough and have enough gas in the engine to watch it move. I wouldn"t be surprized if the farmall powered out and the deere didn"t, but I would think if they were running the same speed you and I both know what would have happened. But then again I have been wrong before.

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Stalled

08-10-2004 13:42:17

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Re: 34000# M in reply to CASEPOWER, 08-10-2004 06:02:58

Both tractors out powered, out pulled, and out did all of the other tractors. It was a derby pull called king of the hill. What it is, you load your tractor up as heavy as you think you wanna go, last tractor standing wins. The farmall and the deere were both unstopable until they weighted the sled down to over 26000 pounds. Yes 26000 pounds. The deeres final pull was 16'1and a half inches and died. The farmalls final pull was 9' 6and a half inches. This was the first year for the farmall at king of the hill. The deere was a second time champ. Cant wait to see whats in store for next year. Does that sum it up for ya?

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CASEPOWER

08-10-2004 17:14:44

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Re: 34000# M in reply to Stalled, 08-10-2004 13:42:17

I would just like to know what spped each tractor will run in 1st. gear. But since there is no way of knowing, Oh well!! If the Farmall would have weighted to the same as the Deere he may not have powered out as soon as he did. Would love to have been there to watch..

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G-MAN

08-10-2004 08:20:45

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Re: 34000# M in reply to CASEPOWER, 08-10-2004 06:02:58

Of course they use low gears to multiply torque, all tractors do. What about if the M had that creeper gear? What was he doing with it? Same thing, correct?

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CASEPOWER

08-10-2004 10:06:06

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Re: 34000# M in reply to G-MAN, 08-10-2004 08:20:45

I didn"t say they did, but I have seen a lot more deeres use it then farmalls and I have seen 5 times as many M"s pull then 720"s, 70"s, G"s, and 730"s combined.

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G-MAN

08-10-2004 10:10:59

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Re: 34000# M in reply to CASEPOWER, 08-10-2004 10:06:06

So what's your point? Are you going to tractor pulls or tractor races?

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Cody

08-09-2004 20:05:39

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Re: 34000# M in reply to CASEPOWER, 08-09-2004 19:25:44

That is insane!

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