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Antique puller phase out

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Shaggy

09-03-2004 10:28:37




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I was at a buddies place yesterday and he was tell me that himself and a few others puller"s wish they would phase out the Antique puller. The main reason is they are to slow and not enough "FLASH,SMOKE,NOISE and DUST"!!! I know I am a wannabe puller but I still had a good time arguing with him!!




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minnie ub

09-05-2004 06:56:58




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Shaggy, 09-03-2004 10:28:37  
i'm on our county fairboard and every year i have to argue with our board to keep our pull because its not a spectator sport.our club ran the pull this year and that helped.[board members didn't have to stay on the track till 1:30 at night] but it is affordable sport so alot of spectators become pullers. my son and i have a blast pulling and we pull with a great bunch of folks.



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Shaggy

09-05-2004 07:09:42




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to minnie ub, 09-05-2004 06:56:58  
The reason I am not pulling is they don't have a small enough class or I just don't have a big enough tractor! 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.



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Patches

09-04-2004 18:58:44




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Shaggy, 09-03-2004 10:28:37  
We had a pull here in SW Missouri a few weeks ago, antiques, pickups and smokers. The antiques were called a "SIDE SHOW" by some of the smokers. Pull started at 7:00 PM, pickups and smokers had 45 hooks, antiques had 125 hooks. Great show put on by both, ran two tracks at all times, even though the smokers and pickups were done by 9:30 pm and antiques pulled till 1:30 AM. Spectators stayed till the end, I guess if you have a show they will come and I think it depends on the area you are pulling in, but for my money I prefer the antiques. Happy Pulling you guys.

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Patches

09-04-2004 18:54:24




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Shaggy, 09-03-2004 10:28:37  
We had a pull here in SW Missouri a few weeks ago, antiques, pickups and smokers. Pickups and smokers had 45 hooks, antiques had 125 hooks. Great show put on by both, ran two tracks at all times, even though the smokers and pickups were done by 9:30 pm and antiques pulled till 1:30 AM. Spectators stayed till the end, I guess if you have a show they will come, but for my money I prefer the antiques. Happy Pulling you guys.

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Augie

09-04-2004 18:41:09




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Shaggy, 09-03-2004 10:28:37  
We pull antiques, but I do like to go watch the smokers a couple or three times a summer.

Better to pull an old one than to smelt it down to make tuna cans.



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Jason(PA)

09-04-2004 13:42:38




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Shaggy, 09-03-2004 10:28:37  
I alway like to see when they brake the smokers and antiqus up. Its more fun to watch smokers one night then go back another night to watch regular farm tractors. I like watching them both. I was at a local fair the other night and you know what brings in more spectators? Pick Up trucks. I personally don't care for them,but as soon as the trucks were done people left even though there were smokers still pulling.

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Shaggy

09-03-2004 21:47:48




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Shaggy, 09-03-2004 10:28:37  
This guy also asked me what would I rather see pull. The SMOKERS or the Antique's. I like the Antique's because I can possible afford one sometime. Nothing against the smokers though they put on a great show but they are out of my Wallet range!



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CASEPOWER

09-03-2004 17:04:07




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Shaggy, 09-03-2004 10:28:37  
And to talk to a "Correct Restorer" most would prefer no pulling at all. Until folks start appreciating what others prefer,(which will never happen) there will be fussing and carrying on. As much as I enjoy giving the Deere guys a hard time on the Bashing Board, I wouldn"t want it to be any other way. I say You like what you like, and I will keep enjoying what I like. If every one starts liking what I like, I would be forced to go somewhere else. Why can"t the tractor hobby just get along, and we can give the rice burning low rider boys a hard time??

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luther

09-03-2004 20:40:57




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to CASEPOWER, 09-03-2004 17:04:07  
BINGO! you hit the nail on the head.



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Flogger

09-03-2004 14:38:33




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Shaggy, 09-03-2004 10:28:37  
Antique pulling isn't much of a spectator sport. Seems like most folks only come to one or two pulls to watch... The next time they bring a tractor!!!



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Lamont

09-03-2004 14:13:58




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Shaggy, 09-03-2004 10:28:37  
Put his butt in the driver's seat of the slowest tractor on the track, but be sure it's weighted so that the front end comes straight up into the air. I'll bet he gets excited then. He'll be wanting to watch an inch-worm race after that.



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img

09-03-2004 11:26:37




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Shaggy, 09-03-2004 10:28:37  
You know, I sometimes here this at pulls from the "younger" crowd. People just can't appreciate anything that isn't "action packed" all the time. I pull antique tractors and I tell you what, it is very exciting sometimes, especially when the tractor wants to throw the front end into the air and get a little wild, even though it's not moving at high speed. These people just don't understand.

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An antique die hard

09-03-2004 12:28:59




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to img, 09-03-2004 11:26:37  
Those "FLASH SMOKE POP AND Squiggle tractors (if they last very long) will be antiques one day, then what? Personally I think the "BAD BOYS" are a nuisance That we antique pullers must endure, They are the ones that are most likely to distroy the equipment.



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Redman

09-06-2004 15:07:11




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to An antique die hard, 09-03-2004 12:28:59  
there you go,just put a class down because everyone wants to watch you or what you want to watch.
the pulls that make the most $$$ are the ones that have everything from antiques to trucks.
also i have yet to see the antiques at the dairyland nationals,that would be the biggest pull in the USA.



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DCTOM

09-03-2004 13:59:49




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to An antique die hard, 09-03-2004 12:28:59  
NOTHING SOUNDS BETTER TO ME THAN A TRACTOR( no matter what color) PULLING AND WORKING LIKE IT WAS BUILT TO DO, ALL THET HIGH RPM AND HIGH SPEED DONT SHOW ME A THING DCTOM



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Jeff Oliver

09-03-2004 15:05:23




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to DCTOM, 09-03-2004 13:59:49  
I'll agree with you Dc and go one farther. I love to hear these old tractors work and pull and as much fun as it is to watch and be in the pulls it is even better to watch a plow days or be in one. You can really get a feel for what these old tractors can and will there. Hehe besides you get more time in the seat driving plowing than you do pulling .:)



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JEMSA

09-03-2004 15:33:07




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Jeff Oliver, 09-03-2004 15:05:23  
Up until we bought a green 2840 this year I plowed with our "Antique" Model A. I'm not talking about a garden or a "plow day" I'm taking hay fields. Funny to hear you talk about the joy of plowing. But I've got to agree on one point - The "A" will outlast the 2840. Wish it had an hour meter on it.



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Jeff Oliver

09-04-2004 04:51:25




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to JEMSA, 09-03-2004 15:33:07  
Hahaha the joy of plowing. I used to plow alot when I was younger and we farmed our land(rent it out now) and I hated it, well I hated that I was 14-19 and had better things to do in my mind, but since I don't have to now I find it is alot more enjoyable :) Seems alot of things are more fun when you don't have to do them but can when you want to.



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JEMSA

09-04-2004 07:55:07




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to Jeff Oliver, 09-04-2004 04:51:25  
Don't get me wrong - I enjoy being in the fields. For us, farming is somewhere between "have to" and "because we like it". The farm still brings in cash to suplement the family budget. Just the same, If I happend on a plow day, I don't think you'd get me in the saddle, just for fun.

I was just saying that plowing with the John Deere A with the manual locks on the dual direction plows, which only cut 16" on a pass (albiet both directions) with manual steering in New England ground (read - "rocks") is long, hard, work.

Let me see if I can remeber the sequence without sitting in the seat. End of the right hand row. Knock it out of gear (right hand cause its in first) Raise the plow (left hand) At the right moment hit the lock (right hand - we were plowing on the right side, remember?) You got to be fast because it's an old tractor and the seals leak a bit. The lift won't hold the plow up long without the lock. Pull the clutch (right hand) Put it in reverse (right hand) Clutch (right) Steer out to the left (left hand on steering wheel, rights on the clutch). Pull forward into the furrow (left hand shift into first, right clutch, left back on the steering wheel.) Back up (Right clutch out, right shift to reverse, right clutch in, left stear, right clutch out) Drop the left plow (left release lock, left power-trol drop) Plow. (Left shift reverse to first, right clutch) Feather the plow over that stone that's too big (left hand powertrol, right hand steer...

My hands are tough, but after you slap those locks a couple of hundred times...

The 85HP 2840 can easily pull our 4 bottom 14" plow (wish they were 16" it would fit the tires better)in second gear. It's got live PTO which cuts down on the shifting that you have to do with the "A" and make those jobs easier too.

But I don't have to cut trees down when I'm out in the woods with the "A" The tricyle is much more manuverable (even w/o power steering) And I can start it by hand faster than I can the diesel. For all my bi&*%ing, I do look forward to restoring her.

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Jeff Oliver

09-04-2004 11:06:02




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to JEMSA, 09-04-2004 07:55:07  
Haha your right it does seem like a lot of work. Just get you and Oliver with a good trip plow . Get to the end pull the rope, turn to the right ,get straight with the furrow , pull the rope again and open 'er up!



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Shaggy

09-04-2004 10:53:25




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 Re: Antique puller phase out in reply to JEMSA, 09-04-2004 07:55:07  
Next weekend I am going to plow up a hay field for a guy then go to a plowing match the following weekend. This is just a fun thing for me because during the week and most weekends I work in a sand plant.



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