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Homemade wide front for puller

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ChadS

09-17-2004 09:47:05




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I am building a wide front for my 460, and I have a question. I have thought of making it a solid mount axle with no pivot point in the center of the axle. Never loved the idea of the front axle tipping to one side and slamming it down on one wheel. Also, thinking of instead of bolting the front end on the frame rails, but to weld the mounting bracket to the frame rails and make the front end all one piece (front axle, and front frame rails) Is there any bad points to a solid mounted front axle? Just thinking,,, ChadS

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Hillbilly Hooker

09-18-2004 15:04:54




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 Re: Homemade wide front for puller in reply to ChadS, 09-17-2004 09:47:05  
Dont make it solid. Done been there and done that on a GVI. I bent my spindles getting on a set of scales. My spindles were off a 95Jd combine. If you have to cross any unlevel places it puts all the weight on one wheel. Just my expierences. H.H.



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ChadS

09-19-2004 07:40:19




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 Re: Homemade wide front for puller in reply to Hillbilly Hooker, 09-18-2004 15:04:54  
Yep, alot of weight onthat front end on that GVI. Gonna give it a shot for a year, Not in love with the one wheel pressure on rough surfaces, just have to drive it easy around the pits and scales, but if it breaks,,, you guys get the "I told you so" bragging rights. OK? LOL!! Does any one have any specs of the dodge omni rack and pinion? length, would a dodge colt rack be the same? ChadS



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Mopower

09-17-2004 10:15:18




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 Re: Homemade wide front for puller in reply to ChadS, 09-17-2004 09:47:05  
Chad, I will get some photos of a M that pulls in our club. I like it's front axle. It is non-pivoting. I have a photo of a home made one on a GBD M-M too. Chad, need ANOTHER Z? Haha. Sent ya pictures today.



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wags

09-17-2004 10:14:17




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 Re: Homemade wide front for puller in reply to ChadS, 09-17-2004 09:47:05  
I would have it pivot 3-4 inches for sure and keep the wheel space narrow. a solid axle may take a pretty good weld job since nothing gives



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Drew

09-17-2004 10:03:12




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 Re: Homemade wide front for puller in reply to ChadS, 09-17-2004 09:47:05  
A solid mounted axle puts a lot of stress and twist on the frame when only one wheel is riding on the ground. This can put enough stress into the engine block to crack it.



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max puller

09-18-2004 19:12:20




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 Re: Homemade wide front for puller in reply to Drew, 09-17-2004 10:03:12  
Man its a good thing that the loaders on those tractors didn't bolt to the frame, all the old M's would have broken blocks.



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ChadS

09-17-2004 09:52:43




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 Also,,,,,,, in reply to ChadS, 09-17-2004 09:47:05  
What about the location on the front axle as far as wheelbase is concerned? At the moment, it is as far forward as it can be in the frame rails.ChadS



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Dick L

09-17-2004 13:12:06




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 Re: Also,,,,,,, in reply to ChadS, 09-17-2004 09:52:43  
Why not let it pivot and use a pair of coil springs at each side rail to keep the axle level when the front is in the air. The old Ford cars used a single centered leaf spring which would work as well on a solid axle. Back in the late 50"s when I was messin with stock cars I put a single leaf spring along with a ford axle on a 35 Chevy. What a wast of a good Chevy! That was not to keep the axle level but so I could use a jack screw to load one side more than the other on a circle track. I was after just the opposit that you want.

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Andy2

09-18-2004 15:00:12




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 Re: Also,,,,,,, in reply to Dick L, 09-17-2004 13:12:06  
ATV or snowmobile struts on a pivoting axle would work well and look cool.



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Chip

09-17-2004 20:47:23




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 Re: Also,,,,,,, in reply to Dick L, 09-17-2004 13:12:06  



The jackscrew idea would work neat on a puller. Picture this: as you want to turn right the Right front wheel would push down loading the Left rear giving it more traction turning tractor to the right. Got ya thinking !!!! Now put hydraulic cylinders on each side with hydraulic lines connected to the power steering lines???? I"ve been thinking again Sorry!!



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