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45Degree or 23Degree Tires

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Traction

12-29-2004 04:51:12




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What is your opinion which get better traction if tread percentage is the same. Or does one tire works better on certain types of dirt.




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770

12-31-2004 16:06:21




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 Re: 45Degree or 23Degree Tires in reply to Traction, 12-29-2004 04:51:12  
Low speed limits.....try 45 degree...I did and won"t go back. Seems the have just enough "slip". 23 degre tires mound too much dirt, unless you can move faster, hence anything over lets say...6 mph???



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AC

12-29-2004 18:09:19




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 Re: 45Degree or 23Degree Tires in reply to Traction, 12-29-2004 04:51:12  
My buddy has a set of cut 45 degree tires that can't be stopped... and further more, it does not dig a pile of dirt up going down the track either....AC



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wolfmantractor

12-29-2004 16:34:17




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 Re: 45Degree or 23Degree Tires in reply to Traction, 12-29-2004 04:51:12  
Low horsepower, slow older tractors- 45 degree. High power, fast tractors-23 degree.



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Mike Aylward

12-29-2004 16:24:00




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 Re: 45Degree or 23Degree Tires in reply to Traction, 12-29-2004 04:51:12  
Traction, the answer to your question is "it depends". On the right track the old 45 degree tires work well but the 23 degree tire (or a 30 degree, for that matter) is a more "general purpose" tire. The 45's work well where they work but they usually will set you back instead of putting you in the winner's circle. On very hard or very loose tracks they work ok but all things considered you are still better off with a good set of shallower angle bars. Mike

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Goldsburg

12-29-2004 09:46:59




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 Re: 45Degree or 23Degree Tires in reply to Traction, 12-29-2004 04:51:12  
45 degree tires seem to dominate in the "uncut" tire classes, while the 23 degree tires are rarely beaten in the "cut" tire classes.

This may follow the trend that buickanddeere stated about 45 degree tires on loose tracks and 23 degree tires on tight track. I say this since most uncut tire classes tend to loosen up the soil with their longer bars "digging in" as they spin. When cut tires spin, they usually only disturbed the top 1" to 2" of soil...

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Goldsburg
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buickanddeere

12-29-2004 07:29:31




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 Re: 45Degree or 23Degree Tires in reply to Traction, 12-29-2004 04:51:12  
Tall bar 45 on loose tracks. Short bar 23's on hard tracks.



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Traction

12-29-2004 10:21:07




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 Re: 45Degree or 23Degree Tires in reply to buickanddeere, 12-29-2004 07:29:31  
Let me get this right. Tall bar = Long bar. I have heard pullers say they have a set of long bars/short bars tires not sure about that reference.



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Isaac

12-29-2004 21:51:58




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 Re: 45Degree or 23Degree Tires in reply to Traction, 12-29-2004 10:21:07  
Long bar short bar tires are different than the 45 and 23 degree tires. This tire has a long and a short bar that overlap each other. Which means that every other bar is different. Long, short, long, down each side of the tire. I had a set of 23 degree Armstongs/Titans on my old oliver and all i did was spin and tear up the track, now i have a set of the Titam long bar short bar"s and i dont spin and tear up the track it boggs my engine out of power. A good tire that works great is a 45 degree tire that has a lot of age and road wear on it. The age makes the tire stiff and the road wear cuts the tire back. With this you can run a lower air pressure and dont have to worry about the tread buckleing over. The one pull i go to you can pull the same tractor up to 3 times in one class with different drivers, my friend pulled the tractor first and spun out because he ran to low of tire pressure and the tread buckled, i increased the pressure and got the only full at the pull that nite. 23 and 45 degree tires are both great tires it all depends on the power of the tractor, the track, the air pressure, and in some cases the driver.

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treadage

12-29-2004 15:36:07




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 Re: 45Degree or 23Degree Tires in reply to Traction, 12-29-2004 10:21:07  
I think by short bar he means worn out or shaved down a lot, and by tall bar he means not very worn or shaved.



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buickanddeere

12-29-2004 20:15:30




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 Re: 45Degree or 23Degree Tires in reply to treadage, 12-29-2004 15:36:07  
Yes, thanks.



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