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Mopower

05-23-2005 05:52:33

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I thought maybe someone on here could tell me how to find these Jimmys. I had the thought of puting one in an older GM pickup to haul my pulling tractors. I figured a 4-53 would be a good truck fit. Grandpa has a 8-71 in his semi and used to have a 6-71. Great sounding engines! What can anyone tell me about finding some. Long live the two stroke!

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colekicker

05-23-2005 13:21:52

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Re: Finding Detroit Diesels in reply to Mopower, 05-23-2005 05:52:33

I saw a Ford F-350 in Tennessee with an Isuzu 6 cyl diesel out of a bread truck. It had a 3 spd aux. tranny behind the 5 spd. Guy said 26 down the highway. Said it pulled a trailer great. I wouldn't worry about that horsepower number so much. The new IH 4300 CXT or whatever its called is something like 260 hp.

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colekicker

05-23-2005 13:21:50

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Re: Finding Detroit Diesels in reply to Mopower, 05-23-2005 05:52:33

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720Deere

05-23-2005 13:01:48

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Re: Finding Detroit Diesels in reply to Mopower, 05-23-2005 05:52:33

I don't know how suitable a 4-53 is going to be in a pickup. I know a guy that did it in a Ford 20 years ago and it was a dog. He added an auxillary transmission that helped, but then it was more like driving a Mack quadruplex. You're only looking at something like 160 hp with big injectors unless you go to a turbo setup. That's not much grunt for dragging a trailer around. Most Japanese 4 cylinder engines have more than that these days. The fuel economy won't be too great either if you set it up to run. I've got an old 8-71 in a rollback, and although it sounds good it only gets about 5 mpg. Of course a 4-53 in a pickup should do much better, but they do like their fuel when you tweak them.

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Mopower

05-23-2005 13:05:00

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Re: Finding Detroit Diesels in reply to 720Deere, 05-23-2005 13:01:48

Thanks for the info. I see they ,ade a 6V-53? Hmmmmm. Neat old engines. I knew a guy with a 3-71 in his 1970's F-250. He got 21 mpg. You'd have to get the gears right I guess.

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Earl-IL

05-23-2005 08:12:24

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Re: Finding Detroit Diesels in reply to Mopower, 05-23-2005 05:52:33

20 yrs. ago I saw a 6000 Ford tractor diesel in a Ford pickup.He pulled his "A" Deere around the country. He said after he got the rear end ratio right it did a nice job. The engines were almost a copy to the 6cyl gas in the pickup.Earl

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Jerry Cent. Mi.

05-23-2005 13:48:57

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Re: Finding Detroit Diesels in reply to Earl-IL, 05-23-2005 08:12:24

Hi Ethan: Why not just buy a truck with a big gas motor or diesal power. If you don't have the truck with the big power it will require beefing up the front end to handle the heavy motor.

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superih

05-23-2005 15:35:49

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Re: Finding Detroit Diesels in reply to Jerry Cent. Mi., 05-23-2005 13:48:57

Jerry is right. You put a big beefy diesel in a pickup truck you will be replacing wheel bearing and ball joints every 10 k miles. We just put a 5.9 lt Cummins in a '79 Ford. It runs a drives, but still working out the bugs. What I always wanted to do for a daily driver was put a little Deutz motor in a ford ranger. Now that would get some fuel mileage.

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Mopower

05-24-2005 10:54:29

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Re: Finding Detroit Diesels in reply to superih, 05-23-2005 15:35:49

A friend of mine had a chevy with a deutz 5 cyl in it. Awesome mileage and power. He put a CAT 3208 in a Ford two but rebuilt the front end a few times. It would take some work, but ya know goofy stuff I think up is never the easy way. My power stroke will do the job for now. Maybe some GM power later. Duramax are still too expensive to buy used.

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Cody

05-23-2005 20:40:46

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Re: Finding Detroit Diesels in reply to superih, 05-23-2005 15:35:49

Try this link, I think this will help ya'll out.

www.fordcummins.com

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