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All 4 horses are turning a circle!

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ChadS

05-24-2005 07:46:02




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Ive got all 4 rods and pistons cleared in my H stroker engine, turns over easily, and now on to brazing up the oil gallery from where I went through while clearencing the block. I did not grind so much out of this block this time round,, I did more to the rods this time rather than chop up weak areas in the block. Still plenty of meat left on the rods, It was mostly done to the rod caps for extra clearence. The head work is next on the adgenda after the block is done, after that is said n done, hopefully it will be as good, if not better than the origianl 270 I once ran. ChadS

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Not horses, just ponies!

05-25-2005 07:33:57




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to ChadS, 05-24-2005 07:46:02  
An H Farmall at those cubes is just a pony IF that!! Get an M will ya!



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AC

05-26-2005 06:10:04




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to Not horses, just ponies!, 05-25-2005 07:33:57  
How many cubes do you want out of an small block Farmall H then?.....AC



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ChadS

05-25-2005 10:33:00




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to Not horses, just ponies!, 05-25-2005 07:33:57  
Maybe Ill rename it Seabiscuit! Chad



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LumbrJakMan

05-24-2005 17:25:58




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to ChadS, 05-24-2005 07:46:02  
CHAD . Good news its making the full revolution . Can ya tell me off the top of your head the dimension of the inner cylinder of my Super M block . I am having a Machinsit Buddy of mine Make me a disc to use to pull my Sleeves. I need to know what size circle to tell him to make . I know the sleeve is 4" and an over bore is 4- 1/8" , How big a circle should I make to grab the sleeve from the bottom and crank it up to remove it ?

Thanks Buddy . Chuck D New Hampshire

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ChadS

05-24-2005 18:14:31




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to LumbrJakMan, 05-24-2005 17:25:58  
A revolution to last a lifetime! LOL! On the sleeve puller plate, for a Super M is the outside diameter is 4-1/4 I do under cut it .010 for it to slide up the block, then the inner diameter is 4 inch, and I put a lip on it about .020 so it fits inside the bore of the sleeve to help hold it steady. If you make the threaded rod long enough, you wont have to remove the head studs, I use a 1/2 thick steel plate, and set it on top of the head studs, with the nuts on them to make the plate level. Then once the sleeve is up to the highest point of the studs, I use a 6 inch piece of tubing, like a piece of auger tube, that is about 6-8 inches taller than the studs, once the sleeves are that tall out of the block, they should pull out pretty easy. Hope this helps. Chad

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FarmerSid

05-24-2005 08:49:52




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to ChadS, 05-24-2005 07:46:02  
Hey ChadS! Would you have any pictures of the grinding work you just did to that H block? Would like to see what it looks like. Also, how do you check to see if the crank and rod will swing once you did some grinding? Once you do some grinding do you put all the pistons and rods in as well as the crank and see if it swings then take it all apart to do more grinding?

Cheers!

Sid



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ChadS

05-24-2005 09:55:51




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to FarmerSid, 05-24-2005 08:49:52  
The best picture I can show that will do you the best justice is the rods. The rest is just normal grinding in the usual spots. Ive had the crank ad the rods in and out of my block so many times, I lost count. Its trial and error. grind some, clean it all out, try again. main problem for a 5-3/4 stroker is the rod bolt needs to be countersunk, and clearenced even more yet to clear the carburator side of the engine block. Im looking into doing something different other than chopping up a set of stock rod bolts. the way it was before was to put it together,locktite and torque the bolts, and then go grind the heads down till it cleared the block. clean it out very well and go. Ive looked at allen head bolts 3/8 fine thread, but the heads are bigger yet than what the stock rod bolt is!! So, still looking around to do this area better. give me a few more days, and Ill show ya what I have done. ChadS

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Goldsburg

05-24-2005 13:59:43




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to ChadS, 05-24-2005 09:55:51  
Chad -

You should try the 12 point external socket head type machine screws. These give the smallest head dimensions, but are still are very strong (exceeds grade 8 ratings). These can be found in McMaster.com. I have used this part number previously: 91271A644

Good Luck,

Goldsburg



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ChadS

05-25-2005 07:01:41




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to Goldsburg, 05-24-2005 13:59:43  
Ill take a look! Thank you! How's the 44 massey? I have the brother in laws 101 in the shop this wek getting a tune up after a winter of work. I think it all is paying off! he has a Stroked Chrysler 265 in it, out to somewhere in the area of 320 cubes, he bought an Isky cam last year, and put it in, and it never really sounded right. he done some home work, and found that it was opening the intakes way too early!! So he changed the cam timing at the gear. it made a world of difference! Before it was around 62 hp, 65 on a good cool day, now its a solid 72 at 540. CHad

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FarmerSid

05-24-2005 10:19:01




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to ChadS, 05-24-2005 09:55:51  
Ya, some pictures would be great! I'd really appreciate it if you would send me some. Isn't wrenching on this old iron great! Just finished asembling my 300U engine with an overbore kit. Now it's 3 5/8. Gonna prime the engine tonight and then paint tommorow. Then I will put it back in the tractor and put all the pieces back on the block. Hope to have it fired up by the weekend.



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a puller

05-24-2005 14:36:28




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to FarmerSid, 05-24-2005 10:19:01  
i am interested in some pictures too.....i like seeing engines....i don't have farmall, but maybe i will someday..HAHA..i have a JD A stroked to 7.25..... ..not alot, but a-ok power out of it....we tell everyone 58...HAHA...lol...take from it waht you wish. I want to get a 4 or 6 cyl. tractor to pull int he more open classes..... ..so maybe the pictures would give me a batter idea. I read most of the stuff you post about carbs and trannys and all that, so i'm interested in learning more from pictures. thanks alot ChadS.....

a puller

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ChadS

05-25-2005 07:06:41




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 Re: All 4 horses are turning a circle! in reply to a puller, 05-24-2005 14:36:28  
Thats a pretty good A if you ask me. Anything over 50 hp youve worked a day or 100 to make it what it is! Build a 4 cyl or 6 cyl tractor from fence row specials! Cheap, and lots of options for color! IH my top list,, Moline 2nd choice, Oliver 3rd choice in my opinion. I have a MM Z and a 88 ollie that thinking of doing some work to. More toys.... Pictures in a few days. Chad



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