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CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE

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b barenie

08-17-2005 20:00:00




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CHAD S I HERE BY CHALLENGE YOU TO A FORMAL (FARMALL -264-281-) ENGINE BUILD-OFF.

MAXIMUM CI 376 .
COMPLETION DATE 05-28-06
RULES. 1) ANY 264 OR 281 FARMALL ENGINE BLOCK
2) NATURALLY ASPIRATED
3) 450 GAS HEAD OR LESS (NO PROPANE HEAD)
4) NO MORE THAN 6.500 STROKE
5) NO LARGER THAN 3.7500 BORE
5.1) STOCK CONNECTING ROD LENGTH (ROD MATERIAL-BUILDERS CHOICE)
6) COMPRESSION RATIO (WHAT-EVER)
7) CAM (WHAT EVER)
8) INCREASED ROCKER RATIO (IF SO DESIRED)
9) RACING GAS - ETHONAL- OR PUMP GAS ! (NO METHANOL)
10) RPM'S 10 PERCENT OVER STOCK RPM'S
FINAL GOAL
TOO SEE WHO CAN CREATE THE MOST H.P. AT 540-400 PTO RPM'S
FINAL CHALLENGE- TRACTOR MUST MAKE A MINIMUM OF TEN HOOK'S IN ANY CLUB AND BE A DEPENDABLE OVERHAUL !

ARE YOU UP FOR THE CHALLENGE !

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B BARENIE

08-18-2005 18:56:52




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 CHADS OFFER AND THANK YOU in reply to b barenie, 08-17-2005 20:00:00  
CHAD :
MY LITTLE CHALLENGE IS MORE ABOUT PUSHING AND LEARNING THESE MOTORS, THAN TOO CHALLENGE ANYTHING YOU DO OR SAY !
PLEASE DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND THAT.
I ASSUMED YOU WOULD HAVE SEVERAL MOTORS IN THE SHOP THIS WINTER, MAYBE SOMETHING OF THE SAME SIZE.

YOUR PERSONAL OFFER THIS AFTENOON WAS MUCH APPREACIATED.
I HAVE BEEN FRIENDS OF THE FAMILY FOR MANY YEARS. FOR ME , CREATING THIS BUILD-UP IS BASICALLY A LIFE LONG DREAM, TO LET ANYONE ELSE COMPLETE THIS, WOULD NEVER GIVE ME THE END SATISFACTION, OF KNOWING WHAT I AM IN THE PROCESS OF LEARNING.
WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHIES ABOUT BUILD-UP, AND THAT'S OKAY !
NEXT SEASON IS A LONG WAY'S AWAY !
THANK-YOU FOR YOUR OFFER !
BUT I'VE GOT TO DO THIS ASSEMBLY, AND BASIC CREATION ON MY OWN !
COMPRESSION VERSES, COMBINATION OF PRODUCTS.
MY CHALLENGE IS ABOUT HOW DIFFERENT IDEA'S MAY HAVE THE SAME END RESULT.

ANY BASHING THAT WENT ON WAS TOTALLY UNINTENDED !

THANK'S BUD BARENIE

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B BARENIE

08-18-2005 18:46:37




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 LW 110-112 in reply to b barenie, 08-17-2005 20:00:00  
L.W.
110-112 HP AT 376 C.I., THAT COMES TO A RATIO OF .3 CUBES PER H.P. THAT IS A NUMBER I BELIEVE, BUT THAT'S GOT TO BE AT THE TOP END OF EFFICIENCY.

MY HATS OFF ON THAT ONE. !



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LW

08-19-2005 19:44:06




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 Re: LW 110-112 in reply to B BARENIE, 08-18-2005 18:46:37  
Thats on a dyno that wont lie too. You know the kind that give you a warm over compesated uplifting feeling..LOL. How would you like to see a 4cyl moline make over 250HP @ 2000rpm,I watched one this week!



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ChadS

08-18-2005 10:53:51




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to b barenie, 08-17-2005 20:00:00  
Ok Barenie, need to know all of what you have for parts, so I will know what I need to order, or do you have everything to do this. I dont want to wait no 5 months to do this. Git r done. In 5 months, Ill be up to my ears in work! Chad



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Flogger

08-18-2005 09:05:47




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to b barenie, 08-17-2005 20:00:00  
A 4 3/8 X 6 1/2 ought to make a mule. Should make in excess of a 100 HP at stock RPM. Might exceed that cubic inch limit by a smidge though.



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buckmaster 700

08-18-2005 07:55:31




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to b barenie, 08-17-2005 20:00:00  
what is the prize



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B BARENIE

08-18-2005 08:09:17




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to buckmaster 700, 08-18-2005 07:55:31  
NO PRIZE JUST GOOD CLEAN COMPETITION.
THE OLD POWER PRIDE BUILD-UP WAS A JOB WELL DONE.

AFTER WATCHING THE PROCESS, WOULD LIKE TO IMPROVE ON THE END RESULT (97) HP
I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT NUMBER FOR THE CUBES !

ALSO CHAD BULID'S FOR HIRE, THIS ONE'S MINE !



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LW

08-18-2005 13:10:20




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to B BARENIE, 08-18-2005 08:09:17  
Bud, 97' is where the pto broke it was still gaining and we were on the second pto.I would say now that she is broke in its more like 110-112hp at stock engine rpm. Or 500pto rpm.



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ChadS

08-18-2005 09:27:38




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to B BARENIE, 08-18-2005 08:09:17  
Barenie,,,, Since you issued the challenge, I insist you bring me your engine that you have. bring the whole tractor if you would. if I used my pistons, it would make 334 cubes at 6.25 stroke. within your cubic inch rule. Dont leave me hanging now,,,, To make Yeoman happy, Ill leave out the spring we sell for it. I wait for your responce sir. Chad



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Yeoman

08-18-2005 08:01:46




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to buckmaster 700, 08-18-2005 07:55:31  
Probably a magic miracle monster governor spring. best, Phil



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Yeoman

08-18-2005 07:42:14




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to b barenie, 08-17-2005 20:00:00  
Mr B Barenie, sir:

GIVE IT UP, YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST, THIS IS FUTILE ON YOUR PART. IF ONLY YOU HAD INSISTED THAT QUEENIE COULD NOT EMPLOY THE USE OF HIS INVENTED MAGIC MIRACLE MONSTER GOVERNOR SPRING!!! best, Phil

PS: LOL, LMAO, and all that other ChadS foolishness.

PPS: A good set of plugs and points probably is all it takes for this deal.



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P Ram Rod

08-18-2005 07:00:09




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to b barenie, 08-17-2005 20:00:00  
What if ChadS uses his "magic pistons" would that be cheating by divine intervention?



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B BARENIE

08-18-2005 07:03:48




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to P Ram Rod, 08-18-2005 07:00:09  
THOSE SPECIAL PISTON'S WOULD BE JUST FINE BY ME !
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SMP

08-17-2005 20:10:32




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to b barenie, 08-17-2005 20:00:00  
your bore number is way off.



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B BARENIE

08-18-2005 05:19:27




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to SMP, 08-17-2005 20:10:32  
SMP
THANK-YOU
5) 4.375O



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ChadS

08-18-2005 06:56:59




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to B BARENIE, 08-18-2005 05:19:27  
Sure, bring that engine of yours down here! I can have it running by Westville this year. I dont need the fancy rockers either. Take me up on it Barenie. You got the stuff sitting in a box all ready to go. Quit stalling, and gir r done. You can have the last laugh and see if for yourself. It wont break. Chad



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P Ram Rod

08-18-2005 09:20:50




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to ChadS, 08-18-2005 06:56:59  
Does the IH on your hat stand for inbred hillbilly or ignorant hick? You goons certanly bring no pride to the International Harvester logo.



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ChadS

08-18-2005 09:34:39




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to P Ram Rod, 08-18-2005 09:20:50  
You bring all the pride to all the bell ringers who park at the truck stops who wanna leave, and cant cause your in there playing with the animals. Doing what, i have no idea, but I bet youve heard the bell before. Chad



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P Ram Rod

08-18-2005 09:39:13




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to ChadS, 08-18-2005 09:34:39  
What bell? Only in Ind. When you get divorced she is STILL your cousin



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ChadS

08-18-2005 09:45:15




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to P Ram Rod, 08-18-2005 09:39:13  
Quit telling me your story man!!! You know darn well what bell! DING DING DING! Head em up! Move em out! Dont get left inthe trailer,,, you mite end up a big mac before the other cows, or what ever your preference is. See ya cow pie. Chad



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P Ram Rod

08-18-2005 10:17:47




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to ChadS, 08-18-2005 09:45:15  
It seams that you have a soft spot for annimals, and truck stops and cousins. Do you really tuck your pants inside your boots? Do you have any sheep to keep your lawn mowed and provide any other services? Chaaaaad Chaaaad. Or do you just let the weeds grow around the trailer house? I can see it now. Sorry I was just amuseing myself. Getting board of shop work. Have a nice day.



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ChadS

08-18-2005 10:51:40




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to P Ram Rod, 08-18-2005 10:17:47  
Well, find your self a girl dude! Its your story, tell it any way you want to. Nothing but tractors round here, no animals,, thanks for the insight of your daily life,, as scary as it seemed. You keep tellin on yourself here! LOL! Just ribbin ya. Nothing personal, its your life, Chad



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P R R

08-18-2005 12:09:26




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to ChadS, 08-18-2005 10:51:40  
Got one and someone elses wife, got to balance too many things, thrive on chaos



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ChadS

08-18-2005 14:04:12




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to P R R, 08-18-2005 12:09:26  
LOL your a busy man then! Chad



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Mopower

08-19-2005 10:17:01




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 Re: CHADS - ENGINE BUILD-OFF CHALLENGE in reply to ChadS, 08-18-2005 14:04:12  
If nothing else, you deserve an A+ for enthusiasm Chad. Bud is a good dude too. Lets see what you guys can do.



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