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270 CUBES IN C175 INFO NEEDED

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FRAMALL H MAN

01-10-2006 14:55:55




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NEED INFO ON C175 BLOCK TO MAKE APPX. 270CID. SLEEVE/PISTON/RODS/STROKE ANY HELP PLESE. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.




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WILDMAN H

01-11-2006 08:28:57




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 Re: 270 CUBES IN C175 INFO NEEDED in reply to FRAMALL H MAN, 01-10-2006 14:55:55  
IF I WAS YOU I WOULD USE CUSTOM RODS FAR LESS GRINDING FOR CAM AND BLOCK,PLUS MORE RELIABLE.



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AC

01-10-2006 15:43:36




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 Re: 270 CUBES IN C175 INFO NEEDED in reply to FRAMALL H MAN, 01-10-2006 14:55:55  
I think thats 3.8125 X 5 3/4..You can use a stock rod up to 5 3/4 stroke, but you can also get billet rods made to improve a few things.



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ChadS

01-11-2006 07:56:15




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 Re: 270 CUBES IN C175 INFO NEEDED in reply to AC, 01-10-2006 15:43:36  
Its not for the weak of heart when swinging stock rods in a 5-3/4. You have to take quite a bit off of em to save the block to keep from cuting too much out of the block. If you know where to grind the rods, and countersink the lower rod bolt into the cap. Just have to keep eye on the threads on the sides, you can cut some off, but too much and you will snap a rod at the bolt. Cam gets thinner between the lobes,, We cut em on the lathe, and have not had one bend, but it could happen. You will have to trim the bottom of the block bores so the rod will swing. There is enough there if your grinding on the original block, and not running a pressed in sleeve. If the aftermarket sleeve seam is set too low in the bore, your trimming the sleeve too,,, Which can be done, but your risking leaking water into the oil from the sleeve getting hot from notching it. With a 175 block, you should have bore in the block left over to still run on the original block. Id hardblock it up to the water plate anyways just to be on the safe side. H blocks get thinner at the bottom, and at 5-3/4 with stock rods, the piston skirt will be comming out the bottom of the cyl, and needs to have a good cyl wall strength. The 350 block should be ok in that area. H blocks you gotta watch out. They are not as thick as the late blocks. Piston selection is good at 3-13/16 - 3-7/8 bore. ChadS

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FRAMALL H MAN

01-11-2006 14:32:09




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 Re: 270 CUBES IN C175 INFO NEEDED in reply to ChadS, 01-11-2006 07:56:15  
WHAT ABOUT SUPER C RODS AND 4" BORE WITH 5.250
STROKE. WILL THIS WORK ANY INFO ON THIS COMBO.
THIS WILL FOR 3.5 MPH MABE 5 MPH WITH STOCK TIRES.
DONT WANT TO GO TO 5.750 IF CAN GET BY WITH OUT.
IF NEED TO A HAVE A FREIND THAT CAN MAKE CUSTOM RODS AT VERY GOOD PRICE. HAVE USED THEM IN AC MOTORS BEFORE. THANKS IN ADVANCE.



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ChadS

01-16-2006 14:36:10




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 Re: 270 CUBES IN C175 INFO NEEDED in reply to FRAMALL H MAN, 01-11-2006 14:32:09  
Its not nessisary for custom rods at 5.25. 4 inch bore out of a 350 block is ok, hardblock the water jacket. Not much to do on a 1 inch stroker. Would be a great tractor in div 2 and 3, in div 3, weight classes from 3500-5500, div 2 classes, 3500-where ever you want to weight it to, you probably would never kill it in low gear, youll work the engine really well at 5000lbs in second. We built one that was 3-13/16 bore X 5.25 stroke,,, made 70 hp at 240ci. You can plow with that tractor!! I usually run 3500 up to about 4250 in 3rd gear, with 15.5's cut, on a 16 inch rim. At 4250 and up I run 2nd gear, just wont quit! Ill spin it out everytime in second gear. Chad

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OLIVER66PULLER

01-16-2006 20:35:49




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 Re: 270 CUBES IN C175 INFO NEEDED in reply to ChadS, 01-16-2006 14:36:10  
WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO THE RODS TO CLEAR CAM/BLOCK
AND ALSO WHAT PISTON TO USE. THANK FOR INFO.



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ChadS

01-17-2006 07:19:38




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 Re: 270 CUBES IN C175 INFO NEEDED in reply to OLIVER66PULLER, 01-16-2006 20:35:49  
On the block, the harder spots are in the oil gallery, you may cut thru it, you may not,, but when you do cut thru, braze it shut with a torch and brazing rod. The rest is pretty self explanitory upon the mock up build. The rods, you will have to grind the cam side of the rods smooth with the contour of the rod. There is a lump on that side. The cam, you wil have to cut the cam down, between the lobes, it is the width of the rod + a minimum of .050 for clearence. on each side. Best way to cut the cam is in a lathe with a patient operator cause they are very hard. Its really not as bad as it sounds,, ChadS

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FarmerSid

01-11-2006 04:47:08




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 Re: 270 CUBES IN C175 INFO NEEDED in reply to AC, 01-10-2006 15:43:36  
Would you mind elaborting a bit AC. I have a C175 block just waiting to get punched out and stroked. Looking for some idea's. Appreciate any help you would share.

Cheers!

Sid



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