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Turbine Dude

03-17-2002 16:56:36




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Now what about this idea i was told by a oldtimer that if you take a straight pipe farely long and install it and before starting the tractor for the first time paint a stripe from bottom to top with a spray bomb. Then start the engine where ever the paint stops burning off is were you cut the pipe off he told me it was good for 5hp. Thoughs,ideas ect. How bout you Goldburg??? For real. Thanks T-D

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Goldsburg

03-18-2002 07:52:55




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 Re: A thought on exhaust Cont. in reply to Turbine Dude, 03-17-2002 16:56:36  
Turbine Dude-

The paint strip method is an acceptable method of determining stack length in the absence of dyno testing. It would certainly be better than just guessing at a random length, in the manner that you are using a consistent method.

The paint stripe method would tell you a point when your exhaust stream is losing heat content (energy) and therefore would start to become a restriction. The problem lies in using the "right paint". Different paints may burn at different temperatures, which would result in different stack lengths. Even if consistent paints were used, the application under which the paint was burnt may yield different stack lengths, ie: running an auger versus 30 minutes on a dyno, etc. It certainly would not be scientific, but again maybe better than just guessing...?

I have heard of this method before, but I was told to use barn roof silver....

Goldsburg

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Tim

03-17-2002 20:58:09




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 Re: A thought on exhaust Cont. in reply to Turbine Dude, 03-17-2002 16:56:36  
That is one of the ways to get the back pressure right. IMHO there are a lot of pullers with the long chrome stacks connected just about the exhaust manifold and they loose too much back pressure. Unless you are turning 5k or more you tend to lean out the mixure because the fast moving exhaust sucks too much if the fresh intake straight out the pipe when both valves are open. Volumetric effiecency drops way down because of it.

Painting a line down the pipe is a shade tree method of figuring out how long the pipe should be.

I saw a picture of Bears 880 pulling with about a 3 foot stack at about 3" O.D. Not a 5 or 6 inch piece if high dollar chrome. My guess is there is a definite reason for that.

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mike

03-18-2002 13:17:35




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 Re: Re: A thought on exhaust Cont. in reply to Tim, 03-17-2002 20:58:09  
they got tired of scratching the chrome pipes evertime they changed motors since he was always blowing them up! sometimes the obvious answer is there in front of you! you think bear "calculated" some pipe od/length...get real!!



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Tim

03-19-2002 06:30:24




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 Re: Re: Re: A thought on exhaust Cont. in reply to mike, 03-18-2002 13:17:35  
He has not touched it since the steel crank was installed. I bet the guy that bought it(Jack is it) has not either.



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mike

03-19-2002 08:20:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: A thought on exhaust Cont. in reply to Tim, 03-19-2002 06:30:24  
steel crank,steel cam, all that helps, but the block will only take so much!! It is running good though!! He did I hear however get DQ'd for the 2nd time on rpms this winter!!



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Tim

03-19-2002 11:00:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A thought on exhaust Cont. in reply to mike, 03-19-2002 08:20:36  
That is probably why it has a girdle.

Was Jack disqualified. If so then he deserves it.
Why mess with something that isn't broke. Sounds like he wants a few more rpms and isn't accounting for temp changes or something else. Greedy!

But if i paid what he did for that tractor i would probably sleep with it.



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