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Dave in MN

02-07-2006 19:49:59




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Which cylinder on a gas V-8 is considered the #1 cylinder. Thanks




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G/MAN

02-09-2006 15:56:27




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 Re: #1 cylinder in reply to Dave in MN, 02-07-2006 19:49:59  
As the others have said, it's normally the foward-most cylinder on the engine. And obviously the first cylinder to fire in the firing order.



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Dave in MN

02-08-2006 16:41:02




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 Re: #1 cylinder in reply to Dave in MN, 02-07-2006 19:49:59  
Thanks for the replies. What was the thinking behind the Ford being different? (not trying to start a argument, don't need smart answers, just curious of why the differance)



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J2

02-09-2006 07:06:05




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 Re: #1 cylinder in reply to Dave in MN, 02-08-2006 16:41:02  
Can only speculate... but first, the reasoning behind the "standard" numbering...

V8 crankshafts have two cylinders on each crankpin. This means that the shared sylinders need to be staggered by the width of the rod bearing.... in most v8 engines, the left bank (looking at the front) is staggered BEHIND the right bank... so the natural numbering system front to back (1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8) would dictate that the right bank is odd (1-3-5-7) and the left bank is even (2-4-6-8)... Furthermore, as another example, the Cadillac Northstar is different as it has the stagger such that the left bank is staggered in FRONT of the right, so the numbering starts with the front most cylinder (left).. left is odd, right is even...

Now for Ford.. My thought is that when Ford made their first V8, (1932, compared that to Cadillac who was first in 1915), they also made a four cylinder engine that was used in tractors and trucks from 1932 through the 1940s. It was essentially one half of the Ford flathead V8... and my guess is that to keep parts markings common, this "new" numbering system was used... Just a guess..

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J2

02-08-2006 07:32:01




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 Re: #1 cylinder in reply to Dave in MN, 02-07-2006 19:49:59  
There are two common numbering systems... FORD and EVERYBODY ELSE..


FORD (below)
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NEARLY EVERYBODY ELSE!!! (below)
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minnesota red

02-07-2006 19:57:44




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 Re: #1 cylinder in reply to Dave in MN, 02-07-2006 19:49:59  
normally the front left.



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Mike S 806/H

02-07-2006 20:36:23




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 Re: #1 cylinder in reply to minnesota red, 02-07-2006 19:57:44  
Unless you have a Ford, Right front is #1



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CLIFF S

02-08-2006 06:09:01




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 Re: #1 cylinder in reply to Mike S 806/H, 02-07-2006 20:36:23  
On any V8 or V6 the cylinder bank thats the is closer to the front of the engine is No 1



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