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Hot Rod

04-01-2002 04:22:00

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Just completed rebuilding a Farmall M that will be pulling in the antique stock class this year.
My question is, where is the best place to attach the hitching clevis. Majority I have seen pull here attach it to the wish-bone because the swinging bar puts the clevis more than a foot behind the tires. My thoughts are to fabricate a shorter swinging bar so one is pulling from the point forward of the rear axles and secure it to the wish-bone so it doesn't move vertically or horitontally. Farmall pullers, what are your opinions?

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BUD BARENIE

04-08-2002 18:37:18

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Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to Hot Rod, 04-01-2002 04:22:00

ATTACH A CLEVIS TO THE CENTER OF YOUR U-BAR !!
SWING STOCK DRAW BAR TO THE LEFT SIDE OF TRACTOR
YOU CAN ADJUST HEIGTH BY SHIMMING A LITTLE BIT !!
IH BLOW THE LEFT TIRE OUT PUT THE U-BAR BRACKET ON THE HIGH SIDE !!! PUT THE CLEVIS ON-NEATH
THATS HOW I'M PULLING THIS YEAR HEARD IT FROM A 75YEAR OLD MAN !!!

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54SMTA

04-01-2002 12:07:03

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Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to Hot Rod, 04-01-2002 04:22:00

Just make a shorter drawbar. I did for my SMTA. Find a junk stock one and cut it down and weld a ring on the end, or buy a "D" ring and bolt it to the end. I have a home made D ring bolted to the end of mine. If you are going to use the original wishbone, try to get your drawbar to go over top for more hitch height. For my SMTA, we take the stock apparatus off and put on a homemade one made of angle iron to hold weights and turnbuckles to raise and lower the drawbar. My brother has one similar for his M, but it is made from a stock "wishbone".

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Hot Rod

04-01-2002 14:29:04

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Re: Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to 54SMTA, 04-01-2002 12:07:03

Thanks, 54 SMTA!

Your suggestion is exactly what I was thinking of doing. Nearly all of the Farmalls in our club pull from the Wishbone. This just doesn't look like the best mecvhanical advantage to me.

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THINK ABOUT IT

04-01-2002 18:16:36

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Re: Re: Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to Hot Rod, 04-01-2002 14:29:04

DONT use turnbuckles to make it adjustable instead of the original arms. If the bottom bolts of your wishonebone or whatever you use, would break, it would take you over so fast. Maybe build something off the pto housing.

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54SMTA

04-01-2002 19:42:59

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to THINK ABOUT IT, 04-01-2002 18:16:36

Maybe I should clarify turnbuckles....they are actually third links for a three point hitch. I've pulled may times and they are still like new.

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coat of minnie colors

04-01-2002 19:57:44

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to 54SMTA, 04-01-2002 19:42:59

I seen a M flip over once .It had a turn buckle fastened up high & the draw bar broke.

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54SMTA

04-02-2002 10:57:09

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to coat of minnie colors, 04-01-2002 19:57:44

The turnbuckles on my hitch will not break. They have as good a chance of breaking as any other point on the hitch or on anyone's hitch for that matter. Trust me...I wouldn't pull it if it wasn't safe.

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Think about it

04-02-2002 18:04:41

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to 54SMTA, 04-02-2002 10:57:09

we are not talking about the turnbuckles breaking, we mean the lower bolts on your wishbone. if they would break, all you have is your upper bolts on the turnbuckle, up higher on the hitch, thus flipping you over so fast, you will have no time to react. Look at it once, imagine the lower bolts breaking, and see what would happen. Youll see, hopefully not too late.

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Common Sense

04-02-2002 19:03:01

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to Think about it, 04-02-2002 18:04:41

From the DivII Mafia rules...

8. HITCHES - Minimum 18" back from the center of the rear axle and a maximum of 18" drawbar height. Hitch material cannot be thinner than 3/4" and not thicker than 1.25". Hitch has to have a 3" hole with 1" material thickness around the hole or a straight clevis bolted or pinned tightly to the drawbar with a minimum of 2.5" hole. Top of hitch adjuster cannot be above center line of axle or hub. Hitches and drawbars must be stationary in all directions. Hitch must be easily accessible (sled operator's discretion).

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54SMTA

04-02-2002 18:16:57

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to Think about it, 04-02-2002 18:04:41

Maybe i'm not sure what a wishbone is. Are you refering to the drawbar on the farmall that bolts around the axle housing which the swinging drawbar swings on?

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Think about it

04-02-2002 21:19:19

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to 54SMTA, 04-02-2002 18:16:57

Thats what I was referring too. Not triing to get arguements going, but I see way to many setups out there that have turnbuckles are connected above the centerline of the axle. Olivers, farmalls, masseys, you name it, they are out there. they are way too unsafe. I feel that no part of any hitch setup should be above the centerline of the axle. And wheelie bars not connected to the hitch. I read alot of crap on here about guys who think that a big G motor, or a 460 is going to end pulling for us, but I feel its going to be a tractor tipping over backwards because of a unsafe setup that is going to end it. Had that happen around here a few years ago, lost alot of pulls around because of too high insurance costs.

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54SMTA

04-03-2002 10:49:16

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to Think about it, 04-02-2002 21:19:19

The other reason my tractor wouldn't flip over is because I am pulling off of a drawbar attached to the belly of the tractor. Even if the whole wishbone setup would break, the point of pull is up under the belly. This would prevent any flipping even if the attachment for the turnbuckles was above the axle.

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54SMTA

04-03-2002 10:43:04

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for Farmall Expert advice. in reply to Think about it, 04-02-2002 21:19:19

I understand what you are saying now. My turnbuckles are bolted lower that the centerline of the axle on a piece of angle iron that replaces where the old wishbone went. I wasn't trying to start any arguments either, just understand what you meant. Thanks for your brains!

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