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Hey Budd,,,

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ChadS

11-14-2006 12:19:33




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Now, this is just my observation,,, But the guys who have the strokers are on the board making the rules for themselves??? (not you) Just make sure that the WHOLE board is on the same page as you, and you dont go do all the research on the how to's,, just to have the Mafia say,, well we will leave it alone again see what happens,,,, To solve a few issues in the club,, try this,,,, See,,, we all have a number on the side of the tractors to ID them right???? From what I have seen, and you can ask Julie on this,,, That they suddenly have new ID numers on their existing tractors, changing their classification, and ID. If you was to go back and double check the ID numbers,, you WILL see that they former mods that your having trouble with,, already have been classified as a modified tractor. With this in mind, the new number should be forfitted,,, and make them go back to the original ID number and classification,, another is ID number sharing,,, which is when two tractors run under the same ID,,,,, and both tractors attend the pull at the same time. I know thats how one particular moline has done it this year,,, the tractor that won the points,, dont even have a ID!! they ran it under another ID,, so in retrospect,, that winning tractor, is not a registered tractor in the club, and NOT eligible for points at the end of the year. Thats just my observation on the ID subject,,,, as for HP detection,,,, here is what Ive seen in the past,,, and it worked out great!! You take the top 3, or the top five in the class, and you go over them with a fine tooth comb! Trust me, someones gonna be thrown out for something,,,, HAHAHA!! Now, you will run into the problem of pullers saying HURRY UP! I gotta pull next class! Well,, the class dont end, until the top 3 or 5 are inspected, then, the final results be announced. Keep em there,, right where you want them and inspect them. Check part numbers, carbs what have you,,,,, best way to detcet a stroker is a compression test, or to read the volume of a cyl with one of those high dollar CI testers that hook up to a spark plug. Dont care if it has a low compression head on it or not, cause the guys that spend the money on the strokers,, are not gonna have a low compression head on em,,,,, the EGO dont work that way,,,, the dollar bill dont work that way,,,, right???? BINGO! they are busted. Especially,, if the tractor in question,, has 2 ID numbers,,,, thats a sure fire way to put them where they belong without making it personal.

I volunteer my tractors to be tested to what ever test you got or want to do. My tractor numbers are:
92
116
117
45
46

Look up those ID numbers,, tell me,,,, what exactly is wrote down for my ID's on my pullers. Lets see who will do the same?

Post em here, and you will see what Im talking about on the ID numbers game they like to play.

Hope this helps, you got my support. ChadS

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mlpankey

11-14-2006 22:53:00




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 Re: Hey Budd,,, in reply to ChadS, 11-14-2006 12:19:33  
compression test to show a stroker .what about a stroke with piston pin height moved or alonger rod .lots of ways to up compression besides adding stroke . compression does more for torgue than hp to begin with.



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ChadS

11-15-2006 10:13:19




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 Re: Hey Budd,,, in reply to mlpankey, 11-14-2006 22:53:00  
Compression tests wont be as high as a stroker VS offset or lengthened rods, also depends on what your working on too,,, I really dont have a problem with high compression stock stroke engines,,,,, the difference is seen on the track or a dyno between the two modifications,, I know a Deere with offset, or lengthened rods can make alot of compression,,, but still, put it at a heavier weight and see what happens,,, but still,, stock cubic inches or with in overbore specs,,

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Drew

11-16-2006 18:35:10




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 Re: Hey Budd,,, in reply to ChadS, 11-15-2006 10:13:19  
You always worry about running a compression test, but a compression test will not tell you a thing. A fat camshaft will cover up high mechanical compression. So you can have a big, high compression engine with a big cam, and yet test with not a huge PSI number.



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ChadS

11-17-2006 09:09:15




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 Re: Hey Budd,,, in reply to Drew, 11-16-2006 18:35:10  
If we knew what stock pressure is, use it as a reference, and allow a percentage allowed over,,, if the cam trick worked, then its one more way to trick the tester,,,,, Best to do is be honest upfront and put the tractor where it belongs. I would still belive anything done to an engine, would show in some sort of testing, whether it be compression, dyno, ci tests, or see it on the track,,,, who builds stroker engines, that use a stock compession ratio these days??? Chad

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