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silverking

07-14-2007 06:16:03




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Is there anyone who knows how to make power from a DC Case, don"t hear to much about them on here.




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mEl

07-15-2007 11:20:18




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 Re: DC in reply to silverking, 07-14-2007 06:16:03  
I rolled out a stock stroke big bore DC this spring for my cousin, while I understand that this forum will lay still for anything put up here by anyone , it ran an honest 110 hp at 1400 rpm on a m&w dyno without ANY break in time whatsoever. 1380 is the hi idle on this engine stock. I think that Travis will vouch for my honesty as I helped him with his DC project. This tractor is DOMINANT in this part of Penna, The expensive part was the pistons but if I could get what the engine builders in the midwest get for a competition engine I would build them all day !!!! Build instead of buying everything and a DC can be built VERY cheaply. Sincerely mEl

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Travis M

07-15-2007 18:23:07




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 Re: DC in reply to mEl, 07-15-2007 11:20:18  
If mel tells you to do something than do it, he knows what he is talking about.



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joecool

07-15-2007 06:46:44




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 Re: DC in reply to silverking, 07-14-2007 06:16:03  
the "REAL" people who know how to get power of these are not going to give out secrets on here. we are getting over 70 hp with stock stroke, small over bore and alot of little things, in low gear farmstock classes these are hard to beat if they can get traction.



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Lamont

07-15-2007 13:17:42




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 Re: DC in reply to joecool, 07-15-2007 06:46:44  
That"s what I"m saying too. In Farmstock, a DC Case don"t need much at all done to it. Open classes are a different story. You better have a lot more than 70hp, or 110hp, for that matter to keep up with big boys in the Open classes. It doesn"t matter if it"s 5mph, 8mph, or 12mph. If it"s Open, you better have BIG horses and lots of "em. If someone is dominating Open classes with 110HP, there must not be much heavy competition.

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mEl

07-15-2007 17:06:06




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 Re: DC in reply to Lamont, 07-15-2007 13:17:42  
Lamont, The area that we pull in for some reason has resisted NATPA classification of tractors, the forementioned tractor is stock appearing , the only concession being electric w/p and fan. It is ,of course not competetive in a true open scenerio, but will handle itself quite respectfully in speed limit classes especially up to 6 mph. You are right on about the massive HP required for true open class pulling, but our area is somewhat behind the midwest in the quantity of those type tractors. My point was that with minimal work- block boring, making sleeves from readily available stock CASE sleeves, and the right choice of available pistons, a good cam grind and some port work on the head a DC will make a lot of power. WE do as much of our own work as possible, holding the cost way down, not all can do that!!, mEl

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Travis M

07-14-2007 09:22:44




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 Re: DC in reply to silverking, 07-14-2007 06:16:03  
It can be done, and yes it is expensive, but so are all the others. The molines aren't as cheap as they used to be because everyone is doing them now. I made a DC go fast and it had lots of power and it was fun, but they can't compete with the 6 cylinders in open classes. MPH classes on the other had, they can be made to compete in them. Mine pulled in a 5 mph class and it did very well.



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Lamont

07-14-2007 08:14:16




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 Re: DC in reply to silverking, 07-14-2007 06:16:03  
For Farmstock classes, 3 to 3.5MPH, they don't need extra power most of the time. If you want to go into the faster Open classes, go to a later model Case or switch to Oliver, Moline, or Farmall. Parts are more popular for those. Any way you go, "Open", "Fast" and "Money" are synonymous terms.



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fmssst

07-15-2007 01:13:04




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 Re: DC in reply to Lamont, 07-14-2007 08:14:16  
Honkey tonkey stompey stompey, clue in buddy get a "L" case from someone that knows what they are doing, obviously you don't!



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Lamont

07-15-2007 05:20:12




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 Re: DC in reply to fmssst, 07-15-2007 01:13:04  
Drinkey, drinkey. Are you drunkey? What are you saying? Fill us in on the info.



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Farmall MD

07-14-2007 08:10:34




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 Re: DC in reply to silverking, 07-14-2007 06:16:03  
Yeah, I agree with X-treme, case parts for power aren't easy to find and are big bucks. Farmall's and John Deere's have many, many parts out there for HP upgrading. Doug N



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X-tream Moline

07-14-2007 06:42:19




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 Re: DC in reply to silverking, 07-14-2007 06:16:03  
bore it stroke it mill it and blow a wad of $$$$$ it will pull . farmall or moline is a better choice for the money , as far as parts for HP go. a DC takes alot of work



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