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FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY

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RJ1976

09-07-2007 13:41:07

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1959 FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY.
ITEM # IS 330163413833 CHECK IT OUT

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Andrew Armstead

10-01-2007 11:25:36

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to RJ1976, 09-07-2007 13:41:07

I'm from Michigan and a 460 is the newest tractor allowed to run in the Thumb Tractor Pullers Association and we have the 58 and older rule. Also it is far from having to little under the hood. There are several here who are in the top 5 in every pull they attend.

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curiousII

09-11-2007 04:28:15

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to RJ1976, 09-07-2007 13:41:07

the hitch and wheelie bars are not attached if u look you can see that the wheellie bars attached separetlly and i hope all of this fuss doesnt spoil this poor mans auction

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JOE ZIP

09-11-2007 19:07:55

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to curiousII, 09-11-2007 04:28:15

Whatever are you talking about, the hitch is mounted ON the wheelie bars it does not contact the tractor anywhere else.

This IS ridiculous.

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minnesota red

09-11-2007 19:33:53

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to JOE ZIP, 09-11-2007 19:07:55

i wonder what those turn buckels are for then.
i believe they are attched to the hitch and the rear of the tractor.

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JOE ZIP

09-12-2007 21:33:15

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to minnesota red, 09-11-2007 19:33:53

Why do you insist on making a fool of yourself.

I tried to explain to you and gave you web sites so you could see for yourself but you either think you're being cute or you just have a problem. I'm done.

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minnesota red

09-13-2007 16:34:31

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to JOE ZIP, 09-12-2007 21:33:15

way done,i would say you are boarder line retarded.

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noidea

09-09-2007 08:59:19

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to RJ1976, 09-07-2007 13:41:07

Who cares how the hitch is set up? If you don"t like it fix it yourself. If your not smart enough to build your own hitch you have no business on a tractor.

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JOE ZIP

09-09-2007 08:05:45

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to RJ1976, 09-07-2007 13:41:07

Well good luck to you I hope you get it sold for what you want for it.

I was stating my opinion off of the fact that most clubs go off NATPA rules and that was the reason for my statements. 57 and older except Div.V and the rest is from their rules.

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minnesota red

09-09-2007 19:52:01

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to JOE ZIP, 09-09-2007 08:05:45

i will admitt that i know next to zero about antique rules.
that being said i would really like to know a few things...
1.if it is not legal to tie the bars and hitch together how can you get any strength out of them?
2.if the hitch is 20 inches why would it have to be adjustable?
3. as noted,you said that if either the hitch or the bars failed you would be in serious trouble.
now if they were not tied together would you really be in any less trouble?
not looking to start a fight,but i am confused on the logic.

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papuller

09-10-2007 20:19:11

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to minnesota red, 09-09-2007 19:52:01

To answer your questions:

1. Every tractor is different. The wheelie bars and the hitch should never be tied together. This should answer #3 as well: I saw an Oliver start to bounce once and break a hitch. It happened to be attached to the wheelie bars, when it broke free it nearly stood on end. The hitch and bars remained attached to the sled. Very scary.
2. A hitch needs to be adjustable for many reasons. The first is for pulling different weight classes. As you add weight, the tires squat and the hitch needs to go up. A second reason is that the circle drawn to measure hitch height is not always on a flat plane. I have had to move mine 3/4 of an inch depending on which way you approach the measuring area.

Sorry these other guys are jerks.

Brad

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JOE ZIP

09-11-2007 18:59:11

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to papuller, 09-10-2007 20:19:11

I wasn't a jerk until he started arguing after I told him where to find the rules. What I said was absolutely right and I tried to explain it. I was only stating a fact and that was all, I wasn't looking for an argument but when a person is right and someone wants to contradict that after stating that they don't know, yeah I get a little testy, go back and read what was said and you too will see that is right.

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minnesota red

09-11-2007 19:32:12

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to JOE ZIP, 09-11-2007 18:59:11

the more posts i read of yours and the more i believe that 45% of the antique puller would hang themselves.
i said i wasn't looking to start anything and you go off and blow a nut.
wanna talk super stock or pro stock for awhile?
that is an area that i do know about,and like i said if i can help someone i will.
without being a jerk.

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JOE ZIP

09-12-2007 21:06:32

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to minnesota red, 09-11-2007 19:32:12

And that was all I was tring to do.

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minnesota red

09-11-2007 05:06:57

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to papuller, 09-10-2007 20:19:11

thanks,i guess the rules are a bunch different than the ntpas rules.

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JOE ZIP

09-10-2007 01:45:25

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to minnesota red, 09-09-2007 19:52:01

You're ignorance abounds.

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minnesota red

09-10-2007 20:05:43

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to JOE ZIP, 09-10-2007 01:45:25

your knowledge preceeds me.
where i come from their has been 4 tractors built,3 of them were diesel super stocks and 1 of them was the top rated diesel in LSS in the nation 2 years ago.
i believe the way you read the rules is next to retarded.
atleast when i post something i try to help people,get bent.

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JOE ZIP

09-11-2007 19:04:32

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to minnesota red, 09-10-2007 20:05:43

I tried to help you get bent, what ever that means, but you wouldn't go and look or listen when it was explained to you. I guess that actually makes YOU the jerk.

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minnesota red

09-11-2007 19:28:47

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to JOE ZIP, 09-11-2007 19:04:32

like i said before,i asked for an explaination and you had to be a jerk about it.
your theory on why water injection makes more power is 50/50,true and false all at once.
i didn't have to be a jerk and point out what was wrong with it.
maybe you should stay in the sandbox a couple more years.

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RJ1976

09-08-2007 20:22:25

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to RJ1976, 09-07-2007 13:41:07

GUYS THIS IS MY TRACTOR AND THE HITCH IS MADE OF ALL FACTORY PARTS JUST MOVED TO THE FROMT OF THE AXLE TUBE, ALL THE CLUBS AROUND HERE USE THIS SET UP. AS FOR THE BARS THEY ARE BUILT TO MATCH THE SET ON MY BUDDIES M WHICH ARE DENNYS THEY HAVE THE TAG ON THEM. I PULLED THIS 460 WITH 5 DIFFERENT CLUBS IN BOTH FARMS STOCK AND MOD. STOCK. IF YOU WANT TO PULL IN FARM STOCK YOU JUST ADD THE FULL DRAW BAR TO WHAT IS THERE. ONE PIN IN FRONT AND 2 BOLTS IN REAR.

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VOLfarmall

09-10-2007 06:54:15

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to RJ1976, 09-08-2007 20:22:25

I have pulled in Middle & East TN., KY., & GA. And I have never been to a place that this tractor could not pull. If I lived a little closer I would sure bid on this tractor and I already have 10 Farmalls

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560 Farmall Puller

09-08-2007 19:38:29

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to RJ1976, 09-07-2007 13:41:07

Why do you say it is to new? Almost all clubs in Ohio will let 58's pull. My question is why are clubs keeping 60 series out of there clubs its not our fault Farmall made a 6 cylinder in 1958 and JD people do not want to pull against them.

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tvman

09-09-2007 16:01:15

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to 560 Farmall Puller, 09-08-2007 19:38:29

The reason Natpa wont let the new generation deeres in because they may get beat my opion thanks just couldnt keep quiet any more. Tvman

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turbos10

09-08-2007 18:36:54

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to RJ1976, 09-07-2007 13:41:07

What makes you say the bars and hitch are illegal. I dont see a problem. The bars are solid mounted to the axle housings and the hitch to the main housing. Looks like a nice puller to me.

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JOE ZIP

09-09-2007 08:21:09

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to turbos10, 09-08-2007 18:36:54

The actual top most pulling point is the top of the housing way above the 20 inches required in most rules. It makes no difference where the hitch point is, it is the height that the pulling point is at. The way it is set up would actually hurt you more than help you because it would require so much weight on the front.

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minnesota red

09-09-2007 21:34:26

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to JOE ZIP, 09-09-2007 08:21:09

if it does not matter where the hitch point is at why do they alway measure it?
they should have been looking at the top of the rear housing,that is where the braces go on mine so that would be the pulling point.

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JOE ZIP

09-08-2007 18:44:57

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to turbos10, 09-08-2007 18:36:54

The hitch cannot connect to the wheelie bars at all, plus it looks to be too high with no adjustment. If either one breaks you"re in trouble but fast.

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minnesota red

09-09-2007 19:47:26

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to JOE ZIP, 09-08-2007 18:44:57

i don't know what rule book you have been reading,but i have had a hand in building 3 different SSD tractors and all of them have the hitch and buck bars tied together.
infact,i don't believe i have ever seen a competition tractor that did not have them tied together.

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JOE ZIP

09-10-2007 01:42:45

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to minnesota red, 09-09-2007 19:47:26

NATPA.com go to rules.

Man has this ever gotten out of hand.

Build it anyway you want I don't care, I was only stating a fact. If you're not smart enough to find these rules on your own you probably do build it that way and can't see the logic.

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minnesota red

09-10-2007 20:10:06

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to JOE ZIP, 09-10-2007 01:42:45

like i said in the other post,i can build any component for a tractor that will pass SFI and NTPA tech.
what you are taling about is the way you read the rules,not what is legal or not.
it does not matter what you think it looks like,the hitch is always bolted to something,and normally they require you to have tie straps from the hitch to the center of the rear end on the bottom and almost always from the hitch to the top of the rear.
i build stuff for tractors with near 3000hp,and i'm the one not smart enough?
again,get bent.

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JOE ZIP

09-08-2007 11:24:16

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to RJ1976, 09-07-2007 13:41:07

Well it"s too new for most clubs, it would have to pull in open class, and there just isn"t enough horses under the hood for that.

The wheelie bars and hitch are illegal also, I don"t know where they would let you pull with a set up like that.

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minnesota red

09-08-2007 18:54:42

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Re: FARMALL 460 PULLER ON EBAY in reply to JOE ZIP, 09-08-2007 11:24:16

only thing i can see wrong with the back is the hitch is not connected to the rear housing directly.
i can not see anything wrong with the bars other than they could have been made lighter and stronger at the same time.

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