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C301 block

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Gearnut

09-28-2007 17:59:50




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This was first posted in the Farmall forum but I thought it might be a good idea to post it here also


Gentleman...

I was at a pull a few weeks ago talking with a man who currently runs a V8 Nostalgia tractor (M with a V8). Prior to this, and for the last 30+ years, he has pulled many tractors including but not limited to IH's with supercharged 301's with superchargers. He even pulled with NTPA for a few years chasing points. I'm giving you this information because what I'm about to tell you came from this man's mouth during a conversation we were having over 301's.

He said the cylinder bore "thickness" is much thicker on a 301 and if I want to see for myself, he told me to pull a freeze plug out of a 301 and compare it with a 263 or 291. He said the outer wall (where the water touches) will be much closer to the outside of the block on a 301. He said you can put your finger in the freeze plug hole and tell the difference.

I find this absolutely amazing. And if I didn't hear this from a man who has personally built many of these engines, and blown up quite a few, I would dismiss it as sheer nonsense.

My understanding has always been a 301 runs the piston right on the bore and sleeves are used to sleeve down to a 291, 282, 263, etc. So why on earth would the cyl wall be thicker on a 301 than a 291 or 263? .. or did they do it so they could be bored over a few times ?

Anyone ? Is he correct ? Thanks

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460/560

09-30-2007 16:38:56




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 Re: C301 block in reply to Gearnut, 09-28-2007 17:59:50  
Yes, he is right. Most 301"s have thicker cylinders than the smaller engines. It"s the same with the h vs. 350 blocks. IH added thickness so that they could probably be overhauled more times and to be on the safe side. If you would, please email me the name of the man who told you this, i have a sneaky feeling i know who it was. Just curios to know if i"m right.



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Gearnut

10-01-2007 09:31:00




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 Re: C301 block in reply to 460/560, 09-30-2007 16:38:56  
Thanks for that ! I appreciate. The man campaigns a Nostaligia tractor (otherwise known as Hot Rod V-8)with www.TTPA.org and I believe his name is Richard Kalisek, but I put in a request to another club member to verify his name. I only spoke to him this one time but have seen him around for years and happen to know he won the points class for that div last year so I just looked up his name on the web site to answer your question. He probably told me his name but I'm getting old..lol If you don't hear back from me in the next day or 2 you can assume I'm correct with the above info. Thanks again !

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