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HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION

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PULLER7

03-13-2008 06:06:09




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I am looking for your opinion on this rule: * No cutting of the leading edge of the tire bar or casing allowed. Manufactured data must be intact. Tire size will be 200 sq in or less. Any rim width. * Can someone define for me the leading edge of the tire bar? I need a better idea of what I can cut on the tire and what I can't touch. Any advice or opinions would be helpful.




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PullingWC

03-14-2008 14:17:25




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to PULLER7, 03-13-2008 06:06:09  
USAP says no front cut on super farm stock ,that is no front cut of the bar on the tires. Top cut is on top ,front cut cut is front or some may say full cut tires .



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db990

03-21-2008 15:19:56




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to PullingWC, 03-14-2008 14:17:25  
great point, those aren't "farm" tractors and the different ways some competitors might want to cut their tires is their theory on what works. Let it go!! In our area we dead weight pull and no team, YET, has the same brand, size or cut. It is evolving that in a couple years everybody will basically be the same as the guys who always win. There are more important issues to be concerned about than how the tires are cut.

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jd b puller

03-14-2008 06:38:28




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to Bob P., 03-13-2008 06:06:09  
Maybe someday the "powers that be" will finally admit that Division II tractors are Pulling Tractors, not farm tractors, and there will just be CUT tires. No arguing about who's top cut, who's road worn, etc.



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PULLER7

03-14-2008 04:51:10




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to PULLER7, 03-13-2008 06:06:09  
Thanks Lamont and 4010 pllr, that was the way I interpreted the rule too. I just wanted to double check my interpretation.



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Lamont

03-13-2008 19:23:22




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to PULLER7, 03-13-2008 06:06:09  
Just cut or grind off the top of the lug. That's not considered cutting the leading edge of the lug even though it alters the leading edge. The cut came off the top.



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jd b puller

03-13-2008 08:55:17




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to 5 Star General, 03-13-2008 06:06:09  
To add to what the other guys posted. You stated "Manufactured data must be intact".
Many clubs limit the tire size, especially in the lighter classes. There was a big stink quite a while back where people have ground off portions of the tire, like a 13.6-38 will say "replaces 12-38", so they would grind off the "13.6-38" so they could run a bigger tire than the rules allowed. (12 is less than 13.6). These weren't the tires in question, they were bigger ones, but you see the point.

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Lamont

03-13-2008 08:46:44




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to PULLER7, 03-13-2008 06:06:09  
4010 pller has it right. Cutting the top of the bar "changes" the leading edge of the bar, but that's not what the rules says. You just can't make a "cut" on the leading edge of the bar. The rule DOES NOT say the leading edge can't be "altered" or "changed."



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Mr. EXXON

03-14-2008 13:57:23




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to Lamont, 03-13-2008 08:46:44  
Surely not? Lamont not clear?



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Lamont

03-14-2008 18:01:14




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to Mr. EXXON, 03-14-2008 13:57:23  
Hi Jim. Read a few posts up. The one who asked the question thought my answer was clear enough to say thanks. I've not seen anyone on here bashing you, so please don't try to make this your personal bashing board by making wise cracks about me or anyone else.



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Mr. EXXON

03-14-2008 21:30:36




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to Lamont, 03-14-2008 18:01:14  
MR.EXXON, MR. EXXON, MR.EXXON, MR. EXXON, MR. EXXON. I new you would love it.



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Lamont

03-15-2008 03:28:20




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to Mr. EXXON, 03-14-2008 21:30:36  
Are you really an adult? That seems more like something a 7th-grader would type on a discussion board.



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supermpuller

03-13-2008 13:59:31




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to Lamont, 03-13-2008 08:46:44  
Lamont thats about clear as mud. There is enough trouble with top-cuts now, you can't touch the front edge of the lug only the top of the lug can be cut. A top cut tire will look just like a road worn tire.



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Lamont

03-13-2008 19:06:20




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to supermpuller, 03-13-2008 13:59:31  
Does top cutting a tire change the leading edge of the lugs? Duh! That's a no-brainer. You can take a tire with lugs that have rounded leading edges and top cut them to make the leading edges sharp. There is a difference in "changing/altering" the leading edge and "cutting" the leading edge. Is that really that hard to understand?

He was evidently needing some clarification or he wouldn't have asked the question.

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supermpuller

03-13-2008 19:13:54




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to Lamont, 03-13-2008 19:06:20  
If a tire has lugs that have a rounded leading edge you can make the lug shorter but you'll never get the front edge sharp unless its a full cut tire.



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Lamont

03-13-2008 19:20:02




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to supermpuller, 03-13-2008 19:13:54  
When you cut off the top of the lug, the rounded portion is gone because you cut down past that part. Now, the leading edge is sharp again. No. It's not AS sharp as a full cut tire, but the leading edge was altered because the leading edge used to be rounded; not sharp. I really can't believe this is that hard for someone to understand.



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supermpuller

03-13-2008 19:45:36




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to Lamont, 03-13-2008 19:20:02  
There is no difference between a road worn tire or a tire spun on cement than a top-cut tire. If you allow one you have to allow all.



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Lamont

03-14-2008 02:56:09




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to supermpuller, 03-13-2008 19:45:36  
I agree, but where are you coming from with that? No one said anything about that, for or against. PULLER7 was evidently confused about how to cut the top of the bar without changing the leading edge because if you shave down the top of the lug, it changes the leading edge. I was just trying to explain that the rule did not say you can't "change" the leading edge of the bar. It says you can't "cut" the leading edge of the bar. Cut from the top; not from the front. That doesn't matter if it's a grinding wheel, planer, concrete, asphalt, etc.

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4010 pllr

03-13-2008 07:34:32




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 Re: HELP ON RULE INTERPRETATION in reply to PULLER7, 03-13-2008 06:06:09  
It means that you can only grind/cut the top surface of the lug and that's all. You can not alter or change the front edge of the lug, only the top.



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