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UnSticking stuck piston rings

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Donovan

06-13-2007 16:38:44




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Any one know a easy magical way to get stuck rings off a piston, other then pulling and breaking them off while trying not to hurt a soft aluminum piston?




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georgeky

06-14-2007 06:31:37




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 Re: UnSticking stuck piston rings in reply to Donovan, 06-13-2007 16:38:44  
Allen is on the right path. I don't always throw the pistons away, but all these guy's waiting for weeks and months to try and unstick pistons is foolish in my eyes. If the pistons are stuck in the sleeve it is plain and simple that you will need new sleeves to do the job right. With new sleeves comes new piston and rings. If you have one down this far why not put new sleeves,pistons and rings in it now. Could save headaches down the road. Cost very little more to go first class to start with. Then you know what you have.

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Kevin in FL Panhandle

06-14-2007 06:27:37




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 Re: UnSticking stuck piston rings in reply to Donovan, 06-13-2007 16:38:44  
For some reason my password isn't working this morning?? So I changed my login name a little bit....

If you have an old pot and a outside burner, pour about two gallons of used diesel motor oil into the pot and heat up the oil to about 250 degrees. Obviously be careful working with fire and oil!! This will expand the piston and the oil will work into the ring grooves too. The rings will expand somewhat too, but less than the aluminum pistons. Let them "cook" for 15 minutes or so and then shut off the burner and let the pistons cool while still in the oil. This will take a few hours. Remove the pistons and then remove the rings with an expander. You still may have to force out the ends of the rings and maybe even break the rings into smaller pieces.

Another option is to heat them in the oven to about 200 degrees and then remove them one-by-one and spray WD40 on the rings. This will cool the rings first and might "unstick" them. This will make lots of stinky smoke so do it outside. And watch for igniting the lubricant.

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Allan In NE

06-14-2007 02:10:32




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 Re: UnSticking stuck piston rings in reply to Donovan, 06-13-2007 16:38:44  
Very carefully take the pistons, rings and sleeves and place them in your iron pile.

Then, replace with new. :>)

Allan



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Tom43

06-13-2007 17:27:32




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 Re: UnSticking stuck piston rings in reply to Donovan, 06-13-2007 16:38:44  
Dear Donovan,
Unfortunately, I have never seen a "magical" way to do anything. So any times I have heard people express elation at getting a tractor unstuck. Usually this just aids in disassembly as the rings are tightly stuck to the piston lands. I carefully take them out with a tiny chisel and assorted picks.



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Tom43

06-13-2007 17:27:31




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 Re: UnSticking stuck piston rings in reply to Donovan, 06-13-2007 16:38:44  
Dear Donovan,
Unfortunately, I have never seen a "magical" way to do anything. So any times I have heard people express elation at getting a tractor unstuck. Usually this just aids in disassembly as the rings are tightly stuck to the piston lands. I carefully take them out with a tiny chisel and assorted picks.



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Tom43

06-13-2007 17:05:00




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 Re: UnSticking stuck piston rings in reply to Donovan, 06-13-2007 16:38:44  
Dear Donovan,
Unfortunately, I have never seen a "magical" way to do anything. So any times I have heard people express elation at getting a tractor unstuck. Usually this just aids in disassembly as the rings are tightly stuck to the piston lands. I carefully take them out with a tiny chisel and assorted picks.



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UncleTom

06-13-2007 18:01:55




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 Re: UnSticking stuck piston rings in reply to Tom43, 06-13-2007 17:05:00  
If the piston is out i have used a propane torch and heated the piston a little. The rings just go tink and they pop loose. This was done on a motorcycle piston and have done it more than once.They were really bad too. Worked for me.



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RustyFarmall

06-13-2007 18:11:13




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 Re: UnSticking stuck piston rings in reply to UncleTom, 06-13-2007 18:01:55  
Unfortunately heating the rings with a torch has not worked for me. I ended up scrapping a set of four from a Farmall M.



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UncleTom

06-13-2007 19:24:47




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 Re: UnSticking stuck piston rings in reply to RustyFarmall, 06-13-2007 18:11:13  
I heat the piston which expands the ring grooves and releases the rings.



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RustyFarmall

06-14-2007 03:00:47




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 Re: UnSticking stuck piston rings in reply to UncleTom, 06-13-2007 19:24:47  
Yes, that's how I did it also. Heated that piston to the point it was about to melt. Rings never did free up.



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