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Paul Janke

09-18-2003 18:15:02




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In reading about spelling in an earlier post, somebody mentioned good writing with bad information. It brought a question to mind. If somebody gives bad information, and you know for sure it is wrong, do you respond in order to try to set the record straight, or do you let it slide? If (probably when) I give bad information, I would prefer that people let it be known. Being corrected may be painful in the short run, but feels better in the long run. Thanks for your responses.

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ShepFL

09-20-2003 13:13:22




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
I would like to be told of my mistakes. I am not perfect nor will I ever know it all. The day I quit learning I better be in a pine box. I have learned a great deal on this site and also from reading other materials. My hat is off to each of you for your contributions and improving my education.

Generally I won't respond if I have no experience or knowledge on a subject; likewise I never knowingly provide incorrect information yet it has happened. I doubt anyone here intentionally provides incorrect information.

I'd rather someone corrected me either privately or publicly than to permit bad information cause someone harm to either themselves or their rigs. Beyond that, if you are not making mistakes to me that means either a) you are perfect or b) you are not trying.

As the saying goes - "Experience is a rough teacher; first you are given the test and then you are given the lesson."

Therein is the beauty of this site. Many of us share our experience, wisdom and knowledge thus improving our collective knowledge and safety while sparing us the pain of previous mistakes. I am always grateful for the contributions from those more experienced or knowledgeable than I. I try to repay that with my positive contributions (posts) and public thanks.
Still chuggin' in the weeds. . .

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ShepFL

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Jim in NS.

09-19-2003 15:57:23




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
Obviously does not apply to me as I dont make misteaks.



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farmallsc

09-19-2003 14:01:21




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
if i ever tell anybody something wrong, somebody tell them so i dont cost them money, id rather be proven incorrect then have somebody mess up there tractor because im stupid



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JOHN (LA)

09-19-2003 08:13:15




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
Being told you made a mistake is good. You should learn from this and try not to do it again.
But like others have said just because you think I am wrong does not make me wrong. I have made post just to have some one say no that is not right then go on to say the same thing in a different way. Maybe I did not explain my self correctly I do not know.



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Red Dave

09-19-2003 06:53:31




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
I only respond if I am sure I am familiar with the subject and know the answer. If I'm not 100% sure, I try to point that out. Even with that, subsequent responders sometimes have more knowledge and/or experience than I do and give a better answer. Or sometimes the same answer, but worded more clearly. I would rather someone points out my error before it gets somebody else in trouble.
I try not to correct someone elses answer unless it is outrageously wrong or is a safety hazard. It is sometimes hard to hold back though.

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Indydirtfarmer

09-19-2003 02:51:38




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
If you were to ask "If the sky is blue", you would get 10 yes's, 3 no's, and 14 variations of colors that cover the spectrum. And they might ALL be right, depending on where you are standing, looking into the sky. BUT... sometimes we make mistakes. Mistakes in how we word our answers. Mistakes in the facts we give. Mistakes in answering a question has no right answer. (Then there is the "dumb" question issue) I see answers that are the exact opposite of what has worked spendidly for years, for me. That doesn't make them wrong. People do different things, in different area's. Sometimes they do it different right next door to us. Before you go off on someone about their "erronious information", you have to consider the possibility that your "assumtion" that they are wrong (becouse you disagree) would make YOU wrong. Then there is the issue of things that are just flat WRONG. I've read some replies about chemical use, that might just kill someone. That has to be addressed. I believe that anything you read on here, has to be measured as to the correctness, and safety. I wouldn't do ANYTHING that someone else tells me, without thinking it out first. Lastly, the "respect" issue. If you do choose to "correct" someone, do it in a way that isn't slamming their head against the wall. They might have just made a simple mistake. You don't have to line them up in front of a firing squad. Just say something like, I read your reply, and I would like to disagree. Everyone would get the chance to read BOTH opinions, and judge for themselves. No one needs to be emmbarrassed over a mistaken answer. Who knows, you might make a mistake YOURSELF someday. JMHO, John

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Larry

09-19-2003 07:49:42




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 Re: Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-19-2003 02:51:38  
With all due respect, I think that there is no such thing as a dumb question, there are only dumb answers. Best regards, Larry



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DEiselrider

09-19-2003 04:12:46




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 Re: Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-19-2003 02:51:38  
Well said!!!!!



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Oldfarmboy Jim

09-18-2003 22:37:21




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
There's always more than one way to skin a cat. Same goes for fixing or troubleshooting tractors. I think the main thing to do is figure out if the poster is giving his opinion, his personal experience, or is he just repeating what he heard or read someplace. How many cavemen do you suppose tried to correct the first guy who said, "Now to make fire, you get two really dry sticks, some dried leaves, some dried grass. Then you take the two sticks and rub them together, kind of like this. . . "

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Ray,IN

09-18-2003 21:18:28




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
I only know about one guy who was never wrong. He wound up being nailed to a tree. For sure I'll never suffer that. When I'm wrong I wantta know; Pride recovers quickly.



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Gomer

09-18-2003 21:07:14




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
Like my old granpappy said: "Be careful about giving advice--someone might take it!!!"



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Wayne

09-18-2003 20:21:12




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
Like most of the other posts seemed to say, the main thing is "respect". I've seen alot, done alot, and know alot, but I don't know it all. So, personally I'd rather have someone point out where I'm wrong. If nothing else, it makes me want to dig deeper and research why I was wrong and in the end I wind up learning more from my mistake than simply the thing I was mistaken about.



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kyhayman

09-18-2003 20:00:12




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
There are also some real differences in various parts of the country (and world). Differences in soil types, rainfall, recommendations, etc. There are even differences in what things are called. Example, if you called me up and ordered a hay rack and I brought you a rack made of slats on runners to put in a field to feed square bales in I'll bet half the people here would be mad because they wanted what we call a flat wagon/hay wagon/tobacco wagon.

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Chris-se-ILL

09-18-2003 19:33:58




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
I think the key is "Respect!"

I have no problem with being corrected about facts or opinions. I have been wrong and misinformed about many things. Anyone that cannot be challenged on correctness {fact, opinion, or deduction} because of ego, is no expert anyway!

As long as people treat each other with respect there is no reason to get offended. But disrespect toward people, is remembered by all and will most likely result in shunning by all.

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RJ-Az

09-18-2003 19:31:14




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
Hey we are all human and it seems mostly a male dominated discussion forum. We are from all backgrounds, regions, ages, experience. We needn't get down on each other for the little things. After all we all use our tractors and implements differently regionaly. We can't seem to agree on the best color tractor but we are all nutt's. I try to glean info from several posts before making a decision. And frankly some info is really good and some is so-so. haven't seen anything that will get you killed.

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Les...fortunate

09-18-2003 18:40:56




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
Sometimes I have a hard time correcting (maybe I should say "disagreeing with") somebody without sounding like an a-hole. Hope it doesn't happen too often.
I would rather be corrected myself.



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paul

09-18-2003 19:13:13




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 Re: Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Les...fortunate, 09-18-2003 18:40:56  
Ditto.

Back when there was less spam & I left my email more, I was surprised at getting emails about messages I had left here & other sites that were years old - the info we put out there is read by lots of people for a long time, & it's best to get it right. I'd prefer, very much, to be corrected when I am wrong.

The point is to help people, and that only happens if good info is available.

--->Paul

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John (C-IL)

09-18-2003 18:38:13




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
I think it is important to make sure that the information you give is accurate. Remember that sometimes your answer may be opinion, facts, conjecture or just plain BS. I think the most important part of correcting erroneous information is to be polite about it and quote your sources and authority. I know mostly about AC tractors, farming and fertilizer & chemicals. I don't mind being corrected if the respondent is polite about it. We're all wrong sometimes.

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Ben in KY

09-18-2003 18:36:08




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 Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Paul Janke, 09-18-2003 18:15:02  
Yes I prefer to be corrected than to let my mistake be tried.



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I may not

09-20-2003 03:22:39




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 Re: Re: Errors in answers. in reply to Ben in KY, 09-18-2003 18:36:08  
I may not always be right, but I'm never wrong.



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