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R. Marg

10-24-2003 20:59:00




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ok heres a dumb question for you guys but I do want answers say you are running a 10W20 oil in an engine and its 75 degrees out and with the same engine and outside temp you run 30 weight oil which will have the higher preasure




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Van

10-28-2003 05:01:08




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 Re: oil in reply to R. Marg, 10-24-2003 20:59:00  
A heavier weight oil will hold more oil pressure at higher engine temps, It also is harder on a oil pump and pump drive because of pumping resistance.



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steve

10-25-2003 13:19:17




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 Re: oil in reply to R. Marg, 10-24-2003 20:59:00  
10w20 is made to act as 10 wt when cold and 20 wt when warm. that should make an engine crank better when cold (like 10 weight). after it is warm it acts as a 20 weight oil and would have slightly less pressure than a straight 30 weight depending on the internal clearances of the bearings. that is why you put 50 weight in an old beat up motor, it holds better pressure with the excess clearances. likewise, the straight 30 wt will cause harder cranking than 10W20 when a motor is very cold (below 20 degrees). if you want an opinion, use 10W30 year round.

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Allan

10-25-2003 04:37:53




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 Re: oil in reply to R. Marg, 10-24-2003 20:59:00  
R Marg,

My guess is that after warmup, the pressure would remain roughly the same either way, given we have a good sound engine.

After it is warmed up, that engine does not care what the outside temperature is, it does not care what weight of oil is running and it does not care who manufactured the oil.

Oil pressure is controlled by the oil pump pushing oil thru clearances at the crank & cam and all the while working against the resisting pressure of that oil pressure regulator spring.

The critical time is the warmup time and this is where differing oil weights come into play (we've got to get lube to that engine's internal parts when it is cold); after the engine is to temp, there is almost "no" wear whatsoever in an internal combustion engine. All wear comes when she is cold.

This is why you never want to buy a car from a little old lady who just used it to run a block and a half down to the post office. That engine's whole life has been nothing but constant abuse. :>)

My 2 Cents,

Allan

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