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mf

10-31-2003 18:26:05




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hello folks, simple question, please advise. In cold weather ( here winters hit 35 below ), is a power shift transmission or hydraulic shuttle a bad idea for a daily chore tractor ( plugged in but not in heated shop )? I already use a synthetic utf in my present syncro tractor. thanks




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Bob in OK.

11-01-2003 17:30:56




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 Re: advise in reply to mf, 10-31-2003 18:26:05  
Hy GUYS. I can hardly see to type this with the tears in my eyes from laughing so hard. Maybe I should move north. Anyway thinks for good laugh.



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Rod F.

11-01-2003 10:03:00




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 Re: advise in reply to mf, 10-31-2003 18:26:05  
The only limitation that I am aware of is that they need some time to warm up. Basically due to cold oil, and the clutches can be slow to energize. That can lead to reduced clutch life. I'm not sure about the power shifts, but with NH power shuttles, I recall reading in the operators manual that shifting should be avoided when the tractor is cold. First 5 or 10 minutes if I remember correctly. If you're going over 80 hp, you aren't getting much else but power shift or power shuttle, so worry isn't really your choice. HTH.

Rod

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RJ-AZ

11-01-2003 05:59:59




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 Re: advise in reply to mf, 10-31-2003 18:26:05  
Hello MF in Frosbite Falls! Like any machine your tractor needs to be allowed to warmup prior to putting it in gear. This is even more critical in below zero weather. Power Shift and Hydrostat tractors have a built in thermostat in the oil cooler circuit to aid in quicker warmup, this diverts oil away from the oil cooler and back to the sump to aid in a faster warmup. I've only seen one failure in my 30 years of wrenching due to cold weather on a Cat D8 steering pump at 30+ below that cavitated and wiped out. Using a synthetic oil helps a lot. My brothers 3020 is in an open shed plugged in and fires and goes every day in the winter.

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Allan

11-01-2003 02:53:21




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 Re: advise in reply to mf, 10-31-2003 18:26:05  
MF,

It's probably a toss up either way. I think if you are using the synth oils you are on the correct path in this respect.

However, I would also think that the hydros would come up to temp quicker just by their design and operation.

I lived and worked up there on the high line for a number of years and can attest to what you are saying: It gets cold up there!

I've seen fan belts snap just from hitting the starter button.

If it is colder than -34, you can pour a cup of coffee, walk outside and throw it in the air. The air temp is so cold that the coffee will never hit the ground. It just vaporizes and boils away--just turns to vapor. Damnest thing I've ever seen.

Allan

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CH

11-01-2003 05:01:29




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 Re: Re: advise in reply to Allan, 11-01-2003 02:53:21  
And if you walk out with an open beer it immediately freezes and starts slushing a snow cone out the top.



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BigBoy

11-01-2003 05:25:37




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 Re: Re: Re: advise in reply to CH, 11-01-2003 05:01:29  
Yeh, and in the morning my manhood is so stiff I can hardly get it down for a leak. No need for viagra, guess it's the weather.



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JD-Tractor

11-01-2003 14:22:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: advise in reply to BigBoy, 11-01-2003 05:25:37  
Big Boy,are you wishing, bragging or complaining(LOL)



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sod

11-01-2003 12:39:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: advise in reply to BigBoy, 11-01-2003 05:25:37  
Then go pi-- up a rope.
good luck
sod



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Ag-lad

11-01-2003 12:28:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: advise in reply to BigBoy, 11-01-2003 05:25:37  
WARNING! Keep your manhood away from metal buttons and zippers.



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