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Are newer Fords (96/9700, TW,s) any good

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JW

02-01-2004 13:46:43




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Thinking of buying a 9600 or a TW10 or 20. I've been around alot of Case's and Deeres but never a Ford. Are they a decent tractor or not? There are'nt many around here as we didn't get a dealer until about 6 years ago. Whats the strong and weak points??




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Greeninindiana

02-02-2004 19:28:40




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 Re: Are newer Fords (96/9700, TW,s) any good in reply to JW, 02-01-2004 13:46:43  
We purchased a TW-30 in the early 80's and it has been a pretty good tractor. We used it for heavy tillage for over 6000 hours. We had one problem the second year we owned the tractor, we broke a tooth off the ring gear in the rear end. Other than that normal maintenance. Sold it several years back to the local elevator. Saw it the other day, it has over 8500 hours, and they are still using it aroung the plant to run portable equipment and such. They must have liked it, two years ago they purchased a TW-20 for another of their plants

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Al m

02-02-2004 14:45:11




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 Re: Are newer Fords (96/9700, TW,s) any good in reply to JW, 02-01-2004 13:46:43  
my brother inlaw bought a tw 10 new back in the 80's.It is a nice tractor to run,but the engine and hyd pump both had problems before 4000 hrs.He still has it and its a full operation farm so I assume it's been good otherwise,or he would not have kept it.
Al



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Ghostrider

02-02-2004 06:06:26




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 Re: Are newer Fords (96/9700, TW,s) any good in reply to JW, 02-01-2004 13:46:43  
I've spent some time in both 9600 and 9700 models. In my opinion, the 9700 is a decent unit. The main problem we had was keeping the rear wheel hubs tight. The 96 and 97 use a giant u-bolt that should be kept really tight. Neighbor stripped out a set on a 9600 and had to buy a new set of rear wheel centers. My dad had a 9600, and it was a lemon. They used a hydraulic fitting type that used a rubber ring to seal the tube. These fittings constantly blew out. Had to replace the whole fitting when this happened. It was also a chronic overheater. The front wheel studs would break out once in a while. It was the only tractor we ever had that had to be split open for clutch work in the first threee months of ownership. Dad traded it in for a 4640 JD after two years of ownership. We saw the same tractor show up on the dealer's lot as a trade-in several times. The dualpower is nice, but expensive to overhaul. I know guys that still run the 9600 model, but they keep a bucket of fittings and wheel studs around.

The 9700 was a better model. The 401 was a decent engine in both of them, but I've seen them drop valves. I've heard it was prone to cavitation, but I have no evidence. We knew a guy with a tw-35, and he said it was a good tractor as long as it was running. It had some issues with the transmission.

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Yo

02-01-2004 16:20:13




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 Re: Are newer Fords (96/9700, TW,s) any good in reply to JW, 02-01-2004 13:46:43  
I personally have never had experience with Fords but a friend of mine hs had them for a long time. He said their 9600 was indestructable, their 9700 was very good, but their tw 15 and tw 35 are junk. It hasn't been 100 or 200 dollar problems but 9000 and 10000 dollar problems. They've had problems with valves dropping and antifreeze problems with the engines and a key dropped out somewhere in the tranny in the 35 for about $10000. Last I heard from him they were trying to trade the 35 for a 8160 MF.

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kyhayman

02-01-2004 14:37:43




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 Re: Are newer Fords (96/9700, TW,s) any good in reply to JW, 02-01-2004 13:46:43  
I'd recommend cross posting this to the Ford board. My personal experiences with this series have been limited (and universally bad). I'm a 'bleed Ford blue' tractor guy but stop at the 7710 series. Really dont like their 6 cylinder engines and the drive trains they paired with them.



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