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9n missing and backfiring

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henry d. slovac

02-01-2004 21:33:48




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will a exhaust manifold that is sucking air because of a bad gasket or holely manifold cause my 9n to miss and backfire?




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John

02-02-2004 11:49:05




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 Re: 9n missing and backfiring in reply to henry d. slovacek, 02-01-2004 21:33:48  
A exhaust gasket is not going to suck any thing it is exhaust and once the gas air mix gets this far it has all ready fired and is being exhausted.
On the other hand I do not know but isn't the exhaust and intake gasket the same piece or at least right next to one another?? If you have a exhaust leak it is posiable the heat has burned your intake gasket causing a intake leak. Which in turn would cause a miss and popping.
Spray some starting fluid around the intake area while engine is running. Does it make a diffrance?? If so you found your problem. If not I would check timing as others have said.

"ONE of you 9N guys chime in here if I am off base as I do not know if manifolds are next to one another.

John

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Jerry/MT

02-02-2004 11:39:09




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 Re: 9n missing and backfiring in reply to henry d. slovacek, 02-01-2004 21:33:48  
If your intake manifold is sucking air, it will lean out the mixture and you could have trouble with missing and backfiring. Of course, a poor ignition system that causes a weak spark and/or bad timing or a stuck valve could cause the problem also.



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Red Bird

02-02-2004 09:20:01




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 Re: 9n missing and backfiring in reply to henry d. slovacek, 02-01-2004 21:33:48  
Henry it sounds' like your timing is off, #1cly. firing at the bottom of the stroke instead of at the top. keep us informed as to what you find, I have seen many out of timing



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fasteddy

02-02-2004 08:33:55




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 Re: 9n missing and backfiring in reply to henry d. slovacek, 02-01-2004 21:33:48  
Henry, one thing to check is compression of cyl. Pull sparkplugs , take coil wire off so you don't get sparks flying and check all four cyls.You might have a exh valve stuck open.Just a thought! good luck,fasteddy



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Tom in TN

02-02-2004 06:42:18




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 Re: 9n missing and backfiring in reply to henry d. slovacek, 02-01-2004 21:33:48  
Henry,

I'm not familiar with the exhaust and intake manifolds on a 9N. I'm sure that some of the other guys on this forum are and will provide correction if my opinion is wrong. So, for what it's worth, here goes.

The exhaust manifold should not be sucking air since it is exhaust, not intake. If it is leaking, it should be blowing exhaust gas out. Although this is not a good thing, it should not interfere with the operation of your engine, and certainly should not be causing backfires or misses.

Backfiring and missing are indications that you are not getting spark at the spark plugs at the right time in the engine cycle. I think that your most productive plan of action would be to go over your ignition system. If you have not serviced the ignition system within the past year or so, I think that you should start by replacing the points, condenser, rotor, distributor cap, and spark plugs. If the spark plug wires haven't been replaced within the last couple of years, it would be a good investment to replace those too. Make sure that you get plug wires that for your tractor, not just generic plug wires. You should have honest to goodness copper wires, not carbon wires. And finally, when you're sure that the components of the ignition system are good, you should check and adjust the timing.

I'd be very surprised if this doesn't fix your problem. If you are certain about the ignition system, but still have a problem, let us know, and we can go a little deeper in problem determination.

Good luck,

Tom

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Nebraska Cowman

02-02-2004 03:00:49




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 Re: 9n missing and backfiring in reply to henry d. slovacek, 02-01-2004 21:33:48  
more likly you need to change the points.



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