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MamaFrank

03-01-2004 12:02:45




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I currently have a tractor for sale and have been contacted by 2 seperate gentlemen, each offering to send payment through a "agent" in an amount quite a bit over the actual cost of the tractor. I would be very appreciative if any one with similar experiences would contact me and advise as to what I should or should not do. Thanks so much.




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Allen Bishop

03-01-2004 20:53:58




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 Re: suspected fraud? in reply to MamaFrank, 03-01-2004 12:02:45  
These are definately scams, and the most obvious kind. You ought to see some of the ones I get as soon as I list something on this sight. People, mostly from some recently deposed dictatorship in Mugumba, Mugwump, or, well you get the idea, Africa wanting me to help them move over here and they'll give me a percentage of a Godawful amount of money, probably more than the gross national income of these countries, and I just tell them, "Yeh sure". And then they send me a couple of more emails and I tell them to deal with my business agent, who just happens to be the State Attorney General, and who just happens to have a satalite office about 20 miles from where I live, and I give them his address, and they end up turning themselves in. Kinda avoids me, the middle man that way. I've never heard back from any of these hairbrains after this reply. Works every time. Just remember, if it smells like a skunk, and it looks like a skunk, you don't have to go around and look at the back end. Just assume it IS a skunk and walk away and leave it the heck alone. Remember, I'm pulling for you, cause we're all in this together.

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JayhawkRoy

03-01-2004 14:37:37




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 Re: suspected fraud? in reply to MamaFrank, 03-01-2004 12:02:45  
Here is a link to the Secret Service website (http://www.secretservice.gov/alert419.shtml) (in case the link doesn't work) that discusses various kinds of "Niegerian frauds".



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JayhawkRoy

03-01-2004 14:28:32




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 Re: suspected fraud? in reply to MamaFrank, 03-01-2004 12:02:45  
This is a variation on email scams allegedly providing you with a payment more than your asking price on the item, and they ask you to rebate an amount back to them, for some reason. What happens is that the "agent" may provide you with a fraudulent/counterfeit money order or check, demand the overage be returned to him before you know for sure that money order or check is a fraud and you probably ship the tractor, to never see it again, either. You should question or refuse any offer that is over and above your asking price, since it is probably fraudulent. Even if you demand cash, you should meet the buyer at a bank and immediately deposit the money into your bank, to ensure that the money is not counterfeit, not to mention personal security reasons. A strategy to determine if the potential buyer is not a fraud is to demand cash in person (meeting at the bank of your choice) and tell the proposed buyer that he must arrange for prepaid freight delivery of the tractor before you meet. That will probably drive the fraudulent buyer away. This assumes that you wish to pursue one of the offers. I would advise against it since the probably of the offer being a fraud is about 99.9%.

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rhouston

03-01-2004 12:14:23




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 Re: suspected fraud? in reply to MamaFrank, 03-01-2004 12:02:45  
accept CASH only from buyers in your OWN COUNTRY
ignore such emails to even reply just promotes more mail.

someone will post info on who to report it to.



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