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Chuck in Kansas

03-26-2004 05:45:13

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What does it mean when a for sale ad for a tractor says: Live Hydraulics and two remotes.
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buickanddeere

03-26-2004 09:12:47

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Re: Newbie Question in reply to Chuck in Kansas, 03-26-2004 05:45:13

Careful with "two remotes". Two pair or two quick connector ports? Many a sad faced purchaser thought they were getting two control levers and four ports to operate two independent cylinders with pressure in both directions each.

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Mark

03-26-2004 09:48:35

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Re: Re: Newbie Question in reply to buickanddeere , 03-26-2004 09:12:47

Good point my man. Never know what's in the mind of the seller when his mouth is in gear with an audience.

Mark

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paul

03-26-2004 12:20:32

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Re: Re: Re: Newbie Question in reply to Mark, 03-26-2004 09:48:35

Yup. I'd want to fetch out what the '2 ports' exactly means.

The oldest single acting cylinders had 1 hose, push only, gravity returned the oil.

Then there were double acting cylinders, which push the cylinder in both directions, needs 2 hoses or tractor connections for each cylinder.

I would read your ad to say there are 2 levers on the tractor to control 2 seperate double acting hyd cylinders - or 2 pair (4 total connectors) on the tractor.

However, some people will look at things a little differently, or just might not know. You could have 2 levers controling 2 single-acting (1 hose each) or 1 lever controling 1 double acting cylinder (2 connectors).

And yes, most often you can make a double acting tractor control operate a single acting cylinder - I know that wasn't the question, but my explination will bring it up. ;)

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Mark

03-26-2004 07:48:08

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Re: Newbie Question in reply to Chuck in Kansas, 03-26-2004 05:45:13

I agree with Mike. 2 remotes would let you operate a bat wing mower for example where you could control either wing independently and could do it regardless of anything else the tractor is doing except engine has to be running to run the hyd pump.

Mark

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Mike

03-26-2004 05:57:41

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Re: Newbie Question in reply to Chuck in Kansas, 03-26-2004 05:45:13

Should be what they are saying is the tractor hydraulics (3 point) will work with the pto engaged or disengaged or clutch pedal depressed or not depressed. Tractors such as the Ford 8N will have to have the pto engaged and the clutch pedal not depressed for the hydraulics to work. Simply put, the pto has to be rotating for the hydraulics to work. Live hydraulics will operate regardless of pto.
The two remotes are quick couple hydraulics, either mid mounted (for front end loaders) on the side of the tractor or rear mounted to operate hydraulic cylinders or motors on implements such as raising the tailgate of a round baler, running a hydraulic operated hay rake and such. I would think they are talking about rear mounted remotes.
Hope this helps.

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