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Electrolysis learning curve---F-I-T maybe???

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msb

08-09-2004 21:27:20




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Been using a 10 amp trickle charger.Went to the junk yard today and bought a nice sized piece of good(non magnetic) stainless.Wanted to eliminate all weak points of attack.Finally gave up and went the Radio Shack later in the day and paid $85 for a 12 volt/10 amp regulated power supply, trying to make this process work.(Thought the trickle charger was shutting down on me.)Got what I would call some foam on the stainless for a while.Went back later this evening and NO action that I can see.Remember I am trying to make this process work using 90 gallons of lye solution.Think I must not have enough amperage for the amount of solution.Earlier in the day I tried using a transformer set at 30 volts but only 5 amps.Also foamed for a very short while before it quit.Going to risk using my good (big) battery charger tomorrow.Gonna turn her up on high and see what happens.Been messing around with this thing for a week now and still don't have the Massey grille clean yet.Anybody got any suggestions besides using a 5 gallon bucket?( I think outside the box,er, bucket)lol,bob

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rhouston

08-10-2004 07:55:12




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 Re: Electrolysis learning curve---F-I-T maybe??? in reply to msb, 08-09-2004 21:27:20  
the distance between your two peices of metal should be LESS THAN 3 INCHES. the more water between large parts the less action you Will get.



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WaterlooBoy2HP

08-10-2004 06:41:37




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 Re: Electrolysis learning curve---F-I-T maybe??? in reply to msb, 08-09-2004 21:27:20  
I built a unit 2 weeks ago useing washing soda. Here is where I got my info from. It prints out to 15 pages. I was also able to e-mail the guy in the UK with a few other questions I had.

>Link

>Link Johnin Pa.



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Gary Mckenzie

08-10-2004 06:26:36




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 Re: Electrolysis learning curve---F-I-T maybe??? in reply to msb, 08-09-2004 21:27:20  
I have also tried the process recently, my results have been very promising. I'm using a 20 gallon container. I was unable to find Arm & Hammer detergent or washing soda, or anyone who had heard of either! After some research, I discovered that washing soda is sodium carbonate, also known as swimming pool ph stabilizer, avaible at Wal-Mart. I use a 1 teaspoon/gallon mixture and an 8 amp charger. I think maybe the stainless could be your problem? Try it with a large piece of mild steel, preferably with a little rust on it.

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Gene Davis (Ga.)

08-10-2004 20:12:58




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 Re: Electrolysis learning curve---F-I-T maybe??? in reply to Gary Mckenzie, 08-10-2004 06:26:36  
I found washing soda at Kroger supermarket.



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RobertTX

08-10-2004 06:05:07




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 Re: Electrolysis learning curve---F-I-T maybe??? in reply to msb, 08-09-2004 21:27:20  
I have been cleaning 30" rims in a kiddie wading pool with a 10 amp charger. It works OK, steady bubbles and a lot of rust in the bottom of the pool. Like the other guys said, check your connections and polarity. should be negative on the rusty part, and positive on your sacrificial part. I use the Arm&Hammer soap.



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Steve-midmo

08-10-2004 05:25:07




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 Re: Electrolysis learning curve---F-I-T maybe??? in reply to msb, 08-09-2004 21:27:20  
A couple suggestions. Are your connections good? Remember it works by line of sight so the closer the bad piece of metal is to your grille the better it will work. Likewise, if your scrap metal can completely surround the grille it'll work better. If that's not possible just use electrolysis on one side of the grille at a time.
I take it by that size of a tank your grille is standing up so that should help. I found that the
edges, corners, bottom of the good metal takes the longest to clean because it's not directly in line of sight of the bad metal. I'm not sure about the amount of amps you need because I've only tried this in a 20-gallon plastic container
using a 10-amp battery charger. Don't give up. I know it works but it's a very slow process. I've had an old dirty and rusty craftsman toolbox in the solution for a week and it's still cooking. I can't believe how clean and rust free some items have turned out. Good Luck.

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deadeye

08-10-2004 02:38:06




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 Re: Electrolysis learning curve---F-I-T maybe??? in reply to msb, 08-09-2004 21:27:20  
Instead of using Electrolysis which I thought about, I cut through the chase and went to the AUTO FARM store and bought a gallon of the SUPER STRIPPER paint remover. Put it on and let it bubble. Smear on somemore with paint brush. Then lay on a sheet of plywood and use the high pressure washer on it with hot water. Let dry in sun. Sand lightly and spray with primer. Works for me. Do a search in archives for Electolysis if you want to find out more about it. Especially if you have rust to take care of. ---deadeye

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