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Is this safe or not ???????

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john in la

08-25-2004 06:06:46




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Do not know who posted this picture or any thing about it but I was looking at the pictures on bobduck"s site and came across this.
Now how do you figure he got that truck jacked up that high in the first place ???
He does look safety minded though as he has the wheel chocked with a brick. (Yea right)
Well I guess you could say he is just making up for his inability to weld over head.
Enjoy…………

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Rob Bonino

08-26-2004 14:39:50




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
Now that the pro-fabs installed I can get the tires on.
Seriously, I just got home from a year in Iraq and can quite assuredly say that photo is from there somewhere. Who really needs smart bombs anyway?



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G-MAN

08-26-2004 07:49:52




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
I think I dated his sister...once, lol.



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Les...fortunate

08-26-2004 03:09:14




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
Well, a friend of mine sent that picture to me under the subject line of "Why women live longer than men". I'm the one who posted it on Bobduck's site (if you don't know what that is, I ain't agonna tell ya!).
I'm glad everybody had a good time with it.
";)



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john in la

08-26-2004 05:09:07




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to Les...fortunate, 08-26-2004 03:09:14  
Yes Les thanks for the picture.
John

Bobduck/ aint that the guy that keeps showing up in everyones picture. He has a green head and feathers all over but he sure does get around.



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DW

08-25-2004 22:03:47




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
Obviously an all position welder. Standing, sitting, or laying down.....just as long as the work is flat!



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db caseman2

08-25-2004 20:10:14




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
HEY THATS DIRTY HARRY UNDER THERE , GETTIN THE TRUCK REDY FOR THE TRIP TO BOWLIN GREEN, SOON AS HE GOT THE TRUCK FIXED HE BUILT HIS ROLL OVER PROTECTER TYPE THINGGY



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Mark - IN.

08-25-2004 16:13:37




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
Hey, that's me!!! Found on "Bobduck's" site huh? Who's this guy Bobduck, and why's he takin pictures of me? And I was weldin on the gas tank, but I filled it first so wouldn't have too many vapors built up in it. Hey, I like that I'm a real celebrity now. And my Mom always said that nothin good would come of me, being the "milk lady's" kid and all. Hmm? Guess I showed her afterall that good things come to those that wait.


Aint really me, it's my brother. I'm the one sittin in the driver's seat with my foot on the brake and my hand on the gearshift so it don't pop out of gear and roll forwards. But you can't tell that cause the the rack's blockin my head, and my brother didn't get around to weldin the tail/brake lights back on yet. By the way, who's this Bobduck guy takin pictures of my brother?

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RAB

08-25-2004 14:50:45




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
Now look guys! The only(???) thing he got wrong was he parked too close to the wall. A little further away and he would have only been propping for safety and the truck would have been over it"s centre of gravity and leaning on the wall!!
AND he is being careful - not working in the full glare of the sun - therefore not running the risk of getting skin cancer in his old age. Nope, on second thoughts he has no chance of getting any cancer in old age if he does this kind of thing too often (This time could be too often). Or perhaps he has only a short while to live anyway..... ..R.I.P.
RAB
Btw he got it up there easy. Drove up a ramp on that side but had to move it away to see what he was doing under there, and, of course, to leave space to jump out of the way as it fell on top of him!!!!

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Johnski

08-25-2004 14:23:38




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
Sure looks okay to me. He has obviously replaced the air in the left side tires with helium and is repairing the frame with those boards which he'll weld in with some 1/4" wood dowels. ;)



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pasbon

08-25-2004 12:50:15




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
at least the welding machine is level!!!!



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JDGnut

08-25-2004 12:10:52




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
A friend from Washington state said... " he's stalling a hillside leveling system..." hahaa... JDGnut



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Vern-MI

08-25-2004 10:58:03




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
Very safe and done all the time by the field engineers from Detroit. They are attempting to establish the center of gravity of competitive vehicles. He has passed all of the Company sponsered safety training and has placed the truck strategically close to the building so that if the vehicle decides to flip over the building will stop it and protect the pedestrians on the sidewalk. Her is wearing a safety belt. You can see he is also using reverse polarity on the special lower hydrostatic de-homodulator dispersment controlled welder to establish the transverse center of gravity line. Later he tipped it on end near a tree to establish the fore-aft line.

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It's a FAKE !!!

08-25-2004 09:38:57




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
That's a dummy under the truck, not a real person. Plus the truck is styrofoam so even if the dummy were a real dummy, no harm would result to the dummy.



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That is my cousin

08-25-2004 10:22:16




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to It's a FAKE !!!, 08-25-2004 09:38:57  
Not a fake. It happened just like you see it.

He's not too bright (obviously). Should have seen him when he decided to wire up a 220V circuit inside his 200amp panel. He thought if you screw in the black wires real fast you limit the amount of juice flowing into your body.

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He lost the use of the left side of his body for a few days after that one. Now he has taken to welding gas tanks like this. He really had no choice though cuz the tank was leaking and needed fixed real fast.

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It's a FAKE !!!

08-26-2004 05:37:06




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to That is my cousin, 08-25-2004 10:22:16  
Are you admitting to the fact that it runs in the family? No offence, just joking.



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txblu

08-25-2004 09:34:25




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
Whadda ya mean talking about the boards????

Isn"t he welding on his GAS TANK?

So Exxon or somebody else will also be invited to the party.

Mark



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Ben in KY

08-25-2004 09:31:09




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
Truck is broke, gotta have it fixed, but no money to get the safe/proper tools..... . Just a way of thinning out poor folks that cannot afford safe equipment. They don't pay much taxes anyway....



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Alexander

08-25-2004 07:27:56




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
I think that he is actually holding the tonka up with his head and usen the 2x4 for a back rest.



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John (MO)

08-25-2004 06:58:59




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
This is a perfect example of the law of natural selection. Just like the slowest rabbit is the one that gets eaten first by the fox. Unfortunatly when this guy dies due to his stupidity, some lawyer will sue the truck manufacturer and win a couple million bucks (which the lawyer will keep 60% of), because the owners manual does not say, not to jack the truck up like this, and there is no warning placard on the drive shaft to warn the guy, that this could be dangerous. Even worse, some kid may go by on a bicycle, create a wind disturbance in the area that blows the truck of it"s board, and the lawyer will sue the kid and the bicycle maker as well.

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Phil Munson

08-25-2004 07:08:47




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to John (MO), 08-25-2004 06:58:59  
Your remarks about lawyers are inappropriate, and reflect a lack of grasping reality.

A good lawyer not only would sue the truck manufacturer, but as well, the lumber yard from which the boards came, the mill that cut them, and or course, the grower of said defective timber products. (When you have a party, you should always invite everybody!)

About the only good to come out of this is if the nitwit leaves a huge life insurance policy and good wife and family.

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TimFL

08-25-2004 08:39:50




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 Is this smart or not ??????? in reply to Phil Munson, 08-25-2004 07:08:47  
"About the only good to come out of this is if the nitwit leaves a huge life insurance policy and good wife and family. "

This statement I have to argue. 1. Would a woman with many brains marry this guy.
2. If he has bred and created a family of like minded creatures..... ..

My$.02



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Phil Munson

08-25-2004 10:25:24




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 Re: Is this smart or not ??????? in reply to TimFL, 08-25-2004 08:39:50  
Good points! However, she might have married him on the seldom used, but highly effective, pity clause; thats how I got my bride! Also, the gene pool can do some amazing things. We all have seen good healthy people with kids that are a whole loss, and, conversely idiots with great children. Just because "Mr Goodwretch" (sic) is a nitwit I can't write off the rest of the neighborhood without some cause. That having been said, your observations have plenty enough merit to cause concern. Phil

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markct

08-25-2004 06:38:05




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
i honestly have done almost the same thing, but i would not do it the way he has it there, the timbers could easily kick out since they are on asphalt, but if they were on dirt as i have always done then they could sit into a little hole and they wouldnt be able to kick out, i also usualy used heavier timbers and would have spaced them further apart, like closer to the ends of the vehicle. everyones image of safety is different but i personaly would feel safe working under that vehicle if there was a way to keep the timbers from possibly slipping on the asphalt

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TheRealRon

08-25-2004 11:18:01




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to markct, 08-25-2004 06:38:05  
While I'll give you an "A" for honesty, you get a big fat "F" for common sense. I know it's your life and you are entitled to kill yourself any way you see fit but please consider that people with the IQ of a grapefruit may read your post and somehow come away with the idea that you are encouraging them to also commit suicide.



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markct

08-25-2004 11:52:05




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to TheRealRon, 08-25-2004 11:18:01  
well i didnt mean to be saying anyone should do as i did, im just saying that it can be done safely, the way in the picture is not safe, but a very simular setup could be very safe, maybe not as safe as a lift in an autoshop, but many folks dont have access to such equipment. timbers hold up your house, no reason that if properly places and secured that they cant temporarily hold up a vehicle. wile i havent done anything quiet like that with something like a fullsize truck, i have leaned up a couple toyota pickups, higher than in the picture, and had them chained to a tree, and then 4x4 posts also braced against the truck incase something happened with the chain say, this was the easiest way to salvage parts from them before i was scrapped them. i didnt mean that what the guy was doing was safe, just that the methods he was using could be done safely, of course all this is assuming he isnt welding on the gas tank.it looks to me like he is welding on the frame but who knows.i see guys at the scrapyard all the time with vehicles lifted up on a forklift and cutting parts out from under them, i consider this more dangerous than wood blocks, hydraulics shouldnt be relied upon, they always tell you to block up equipment before working under it not to rely on hydraulics

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TheRealRon

08-25-2004 12:35:32




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to markct, 08-25-2004 11:52:05  
I understand your point very well. Beleive me, I've seen way worse than what you describe. However, not having access to the right equipment is no reason to risk your life. My experience is that most people are willing to help... all you have to do is ask. Many people have borrowed my floor jack and 6 ton jackstands. I rather get my floor jack back with all the oil missing than have to attend a neighbor's funeral.

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TomBoy

08-25-2004 11:56:51




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to markct, 08-25-2004 11:52:05  
markct - you are better off dropping this since therealron loves to debate with people. Let's leave this as a funny post without slamming each other.



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markct

08-25-2004 12:05:50




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to TomBoy, 08-25-2004 11:56:51  
i didnt mean it as a slam to anyone, as i said in my first post "everyones idea of safety is different" if ron doesnt wanna do it then thats fine, maybe theres stuff ron would do that i wouldnt since i would consider them unsafe, safety is realy a matter of opinion, anything can be dangerous.



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Just ignore him

08-25-2004 12:34:10




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to markct, 08-25-2004 12:05:50  
yeah, do like many people do and ignore what TheRealRon is posting.

regards



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John *.?-!.* cub owner

08-25-2004 06:16:51




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 Re: Is this safe or not ??????? in reply to john in la, 08-25-2004 06:06:46  
Probably had a bunch of buddies over for a few beers, and after they lifted it up and went home to sober up he decided to weld on the gas tank.



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