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Wes in Ohio

09-15-2004 05:59:46




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anybody have an opinion on changing over from pionts to electric ignition




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OGGIE

09-15-2004 18:22:27




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 Re: electric ignition vs points in reply to Wes in Ohio, 09-15-2004 05:59:46  
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE STAY WITH THE POINTS GANG. IF YOU PUT IN GOOD POINTS AND
PUT A LITTLE DISTRIBUTOR CAM GREASE ON THE CAM THEY WILL LAST SEVERAL HUNDRED HOURS AND YOU CAN FIX IT ENOUGH TO MAKE IT RUN IN THE FIELD.IF YOU CAN TELL A DIFFERENCE IN THE POWER WITH ELECTRONIC IGN. THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG TO BEGIN WITH.



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Weirsdale George

09-15-2004 12:15:40




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 Re: electric ignition vs points in reply to Wes in Ohio, 09-15-2004 05:59:46  
Spend the money on a good tune-up instead -- points, condensor, rotor, spark plug wires and maybe a new distributor cap. Clean and regap plugs.

If you do install an electronic ignition while having bad plug wires, etc., you are wasting your money. A lot of people use an electronic ignition as a band-aid to try and make up for poor maintenance, bad compression, etc.



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hay

09-15-2004 11:54:39




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 Re: electric ignition vs points in reply to Wes in Ohio, 09-15-2004 05:59:46  
i sure do NOT miss the days when i had to install/adjust points. it seemed like it was every few weeks. well, maybe not, but it was stil a big PITA. however the electronic ignition with all it's good things can be a nightmare when it quits. and it usually quits cold turkey just when the machine/auto is needed.



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Nolan

09-15-2004 10:12:05




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 Re: electric ignition vs points in reply to Wes in Ohio, 09-15-2004 05:59:46  
Electronic ignition conversion will run you about $90. It works better then the points do. Hardly ever fails. Non-repairable if it does fail.

Points are about $8. Need routine maintenance and regular replacement. Not as good performance as electronic ignition. Repairable. Quality of points tends to be very poor these days.



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txblu

09-15-2004 09:35:45




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 Re: electric ignition vs points in reply to Wes in Ohio, 09-15-2004 05:59:46  
Doesn't even register on the scale. Do it!



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Mark - IN.

09-15-2004 06:57:30




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 Re: electric ignition vs points in reply to Wes in Ohio, 09-15-2004 05:59:46  
I guess that it all depends. Are ignition parts (points, condendor, distributor) still available for your tractors? As Ron pointed out, the cost of going out a replacement electronic ignition isn"t probably economically feasible, so long as existing OEM parts are available.

Electronic ignition has been proven time and time again since it"s introduction in the mid to late 70"s (at least OEM), but it isn"t cheap if/when it breaks. As for aftermarket electronic ignition, very expensive to purchase, very expensive to fix or replace, certainly if compaired to what you already have installed. Bet it"d be easy to find/scrounge up pieces for your existing ignition setup than to find for a new aftermarket setup in a few years, and certainly cheaper.

I guess it depends on you. What do you want? How deep is your pocket book? Going to race that tractor, or just use it around the farm? The choices are yours.

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Allan in NE

09-15-2004 06:36:59




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 Re: electric ignition vs points in reply to Wes in Ohio, 09-15-2004 05:59:46  
Stay with the points. Part of the attraction of old tractors, don't ya know. :>)

Allan



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Ben in KY

09-15-2004 06:32:06




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 Re: electric ignition vs points in reply to Wes in Ohio, 09-15-2004 05:59:46  
Electronic ignition works fine till it goes bad then you have to buy another one :(

Points on the other hand will require perodic maintenance, but are cheaper to replace. And if they cause problems in the field you can usually file adjust and get going again real soon vs having to buy another $70-100 electronic ignition module. after being shut down for a while.
Think I will go with Ron and stay with points.

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TheRealRon

09-15-2004 06:23:37




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 Re: electric ignition vs points in reply to Wes in Ohio, 09-15-2004 05:59:46  
This is almost like religon and politics.

An electronic ignition for my tractor would cost more than 15-20 years worth of points and condensers. As long as high-quality points and condensers are available I'll stay with them.



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Dozerboss

09-15-2004 09:09:41




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 Re: electric ignition vs points in reply to TheRealRon, 09-15-2004 06:23:37  
Everyones point is valid. Electronic works better with hotter spark and the benefits that go along with it, longer plug life, a little more power, less problems with misfire from moisture and fouling. Until it burns out, than it's more expensive to repair and trouble shoot.

Points work, must be changed and adjusted regularly, along with shorter plug life. They are cheaper and easier to repair. They keep the tractor original--is that important to you? I would agree--is the cost worth the benefits? Thats how i would decide.

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