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'Bout Bit it!

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Dug

10-04-2004 21:15:29




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Had a scary moment this evening out doing some touch up mowing with the bushhog before I take it off for the winter. Was backing down the back side of the dam, trimming to the edge of a washed out area. I back down, drop the hog, then pull forward. Well, as I was pulling forward, the hog hit dirt and instead of lifting it, I decided to ride it out as I was almost to the crown. The tractor stalled, so I hit the brakes and went to shift into park to restart. Well, as I pulled it out of gear, the brakes went to the floor and I started to roll backward into the wash out area (about a 6 foot drop.) No brakes and in nuetral and rolling backward, not fun!!! My only option was to cut the wheel and hope I missed the washout without tipping the tractor!

Well, I made it, but rest assured, I'll find a new way to keep this area mowed next year.

Stay safe, smart and alive,

Dug

By the way, I reformed my tractor seat, it now has two deep pits with a ridge in the center (clinching effect, ya know!)

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Mike (WA)

10-05-2004 09:08:59




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 Re: 'Bout Bit it! in reply to Dug, 10-04-2004 21:15:29  
No one touched on it in the replies, but for the uninitiated, brakes usually work far better when you're moving forward than when moving backward. So they may normally work OK, but won't stop you if you're backing down a slope. I had to do a "power shift" into first on my Oliver 550 last summer when I was hogging backwards down a hill, and the "stop" pedal didn't stop me. A scary moment, although I probably wouldn't have rolled- just wiped out the neighbor's fence, garden and rear bedroom. That would have been especially bad in this case, since this is the neighbor who brings complimentary packages of smoked steelhead and other delights from time to time.

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Allan in NE

10-05-2004 06:46:51




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 Re: 'Bout Bit it! in reply to Dug, 10-04-2004 21:15:29  
Dug,

I'm almost certain you over-greased it, thereby making it way too slick and it just plain wanted to slide on ya! :>)

Just yankin' ya around!

Allan



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Dug

10-05-2004 15:03:05




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 Re: 'Bout Bit it! in reply to Allan in NE, 10-05-2004 06:46:51  
Welp, those darn brakes kept squeakin', so I greased em' up good! Don't squeak no more!

Dug



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Leland

10-05-2004 06:30:23




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 Re: 'Bout Bit it! in reply to Dug, 10-04-2004 21:15:29  
Have you thought of planting a short ground cover that does not need mowed.



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Dug

10-05-2004 15:10:26




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 Re: 'Bout Bit it! in reply to Leland, 10-05-2004 06:30:23  
Yes! Well, kind of, I am having several trucks of riprap brought in to fill the washout, then plant a row of evergreens (blue spruce, white pine and douglas fir) on the steeper parts with ground cover of some sort.

The washout occurred this summer during one of our 3 inch rains in less than 2 hours. Have a 12 inch tube with two 3 foot overflows, not enough in this case, it washed over the road and tore out the back of the dam. Luckily the road base held, although the gravel went bye-bye. What really hurt was we spent $2,500 last year hauling in dirt to build up the dam so it wasn't quite so steep as the dam serves as our driveway.

Dug

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Leland

10-05-2004 22:04:57




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 Re: 'Bout Bit it! in reply to Dug, 10-05-2004 15:10:26  
John is right trees would create a weak spot instead look at crown vetch,or any other dense cover that chokes most other plants out.



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John *.?-!.* cub owner

10-05-2004 19:01:58




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 Re: 'Bout Bit it! in reply to Dug, 10-05-2004 15:10:26  
dug, might want to check with Extension service or USDA before planting trees on your pond dam. I understand they really frown on that. Seems that since the ground around a dam is usually damp anyway, that a really good rain to properly soak it up and a storm to blow them over can cause a week spot in the dam.



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rustyfarmall

10-05-2004 06:00:24




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 Re: 'Bout Bit it! in reply to Dug, 10-04-2004 21:15:29  
To each his own I guess, but if that slope were on my place I think I would use some sort of chemical weed control and just let the grass grow.



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txblu

10-05-2004 05:41:45




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 Re: 'Bout Bit it! in reply to Dug, 10-04-2004 21:15:29  
I have a dam that goes from a flat top abruptly to a 1 in 3 rise on the back side. On the front side, it is geometrically undefined due to washout. I have tried everything to get this thing mowed keeping "ROLLOVER" in mind.

Sickle bars sound like a great idea but suck. Lots of reasons.

What I wound up with was a 5' hog to do the big part and slopes of less than 1 to 3, and my old yard lawn mower (Scotts 42" with Kohler 15 hp) for the sharp point and sloping backside.

Get 3 things there. Smaller cutting area so it is easier to move about the uneven terrain, low to the ground so CG is easily controlled, and if I feel a bit timid, I can sit side seat where my body is right over the high side wheels and away we go.

Might help you.

Mark

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ken macfarlane

10-05-2004 11:01:43




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 Re: 'Bout Bit it! in reply to txblu, 10-05-2004 05:41:45  
People make fun of CUT's but a hydrostatic compact tractor is ideal for the type of stuff you're trying to mow. Let go of the pedal and it just stops. Can inch down slow even with the bushhog spinning at PTO speed.

Ken



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