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BSer

10-10-2004 07:57:09




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I have a small recycling operation and have thought of converting a square baler to bale aluminum cans. What kind of pressure can be obtained from the stroker without hurting it?How can it be modified with a slip clutch to protect it? I realize that this is way off topic,but have been amazed by the resourcefullness of ya'll here. THANKS!!!




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Errin OH

10-11-2004 07:04:22




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 Re: OT/ hay baler conversion in reply to BSer, 10-10-2004 07:57:09  
I suspect it be a waste of time as well. Given one or two cans can support a 40lb concret block. The fact most balers are only designed to apply a few hundred pounds of pressure at the plunger. And the number of cans that it gonna take to fill the bale chamber, Just isn't gonna happen.

I have, however, seen a home made can smasher. Fella had a pice of square tubing with a plunger powered with an electric motor. Mounted Horz, had 1" slot in the bottom the smashed can fell through into a box. It had a sleave that'd hold 6-8 cans. Even though it feed them in after each stroke, that sleave still had to fed by hand. Not real fast, still it smash up cans in a hurry. He'd take in $4-500 a month with it.

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Leland

10-10-2004 19:37:04




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 Re: OT/ hay baler conversion in reply to BSer, 10-10-2004 07:57:09  
I know a yard operator that already tried this and it was a waste of time. he built one using a lift cylinder off a dozer and welded up a chamber out of 3/4 plate with gussets all around, it makes nice 35lb n up bales and there are nice and square and stack on pallets nice.



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Jet9N

10-10-2004 16:13:11




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 Re: OT/ hay baler conversion in reply to BSer, 10-10-2004 07:57:09  
I would think it would have to have things closed
up quite a bit to keep the cans in. Then I would be concerned about needle breakage, as well as twine
being cut by the cans. A friend of mine played with the idea for baling plastic, but I never heard the results.

Jet



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Paul Janke

10-10-2004 11:58:00




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 Re: OT/ hay baler conversion in reply to BSer, 10-10-2004 07:57:09  
Only a wild guess, but it looks like the baler would need to be stood on its tail. It also seems like it would need to be hand tie with boards thrown in between bales like with the old balers. I've thought it might be interesting to try.....



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Sid

10-10-2004 09:42:02




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 Re: OT/ hay baler conversion in reply to BSer, 10-10-2004 07:57:09  
I think the question as if the plunger can take the pressure is the least of your worries. Redoing the chamber and holding the cans together is the challenge. You would have to redeign the chamber to keep the cans from falling out. I doubt the feeding chamber would work so a lot of redoing there. As Bob mentioned, about the slip clutch every type of baler that I know of already has one. But I will not say imossible.

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Bob

10-10-2004 08:42:52




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 Re: OT/ hay baler conversion in reply to BSer, 10-10-2004 07:57:09  
Most balers already HAVE a slipclutch. I don't know if baling cans would be any tougher than tough, stringy hay.

I DOUBT it would work to tie the squashed cans in bales, but who knows! I'm sure someone has tried it!



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