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Tweeter

11-07-2004 14:50:45




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I checked out the antifreeze leak. It is not a freeze plug. The leak is coming from somewhere near the back of the motor towards that top and leaking down the side of the motor and over the starter and then to the ground. Maybe a head gasket or intake gasket? The top of the intake manifold is dry. There is moisture (drips) coming from the tailpipe and white smoke. As for the drips coming from the driver side, that is a rotted brake line (not antifreeze) running to the rear brakes along the frame.

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Trailerman

11-08-2004 08:40:08




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 95% sure it's your intake manifold gasket in reply to Tweeter, 11-07-2004 14:50:45  
Tweeter,

I have a 99 tahoe with the 350 in it. I had the same leak coming from the top of the engine but would leak down on the drivers side and under the transmission. I ended up asking a mechanic friend of mine, and he knew exactly what it was. He said that this was very common on the 350 engines.



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Farmall Don

11-08-2004 11:35:39




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 Re: 95% sure it's your intake manifold gasket in reply to Trailerman, 11-08-2004 08:40:08  
Same thing on my 1995 last year. Replaced the gasket and that took care of it.



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Allan in NE

11-08-2004 02:04:25




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 Re: Chevy 350 in reply to Tweeter, 11-07-2004 14:50:45  
Tweater,

If you get down to the point where you think you might have to pull the heads, I would have them checked at a machine shop.

I had to have mine milled as they would not seal at the head gasket (warped). Also, might as well put a set of valve seals in as these are notorious for going bad in time.

Tryin' to help,

Allan



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Mark - IN.

11-08-2004 05:43:26




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 Re: Chevy 350 in reply to Allan in NE, 11-08-2004 02:04:25  
Good morning Allan, a man that reasons, and a man after my own heart.

You are exactly correct. If does turn out to be a head gasket, that could cause some warping in the head, often corrected by decking the head(s) .005 if that occured. It's a common practice.

One thing's for sure, if it's a gasket problem (much cheaper than...), there's only two gaskets that will allow coolant into the cylinders/cumbustion chambers: Intake manifold, or head. Since he's blowin' out the tailpipe, he's got one (if it's a gasket).

The reason I tend to believe it's a head, is because he's overheatin' as well. That's a symptom of compression back into the cooling system. Wonder what his radiator cap pressure looks like? Should be in the teens (not higher). Higher would also suggest a head gasket.

If were just an intake manifold gasket, and runnin' lean (overheating) in addition to suckin' coolant, then I'd think would be suckin' air around the top of the manifold where meets the head. If that's the case, could run a garden hose drip along that edge while it's runnin', and it'd suck the water in, motor would spit and sputter as water tries to mix with the fuel mixture. If the gasket were leaking from below (oil gallery), then probably wouldn't be runnin' lean, because would be sucking oil vapors from the crank case, which you know is very volatile (burns/explodes pretty good).

I'm thinkin' head gasket from the symptoms, but could get lucky and have it only be an intake manifold gasket. In any (either) event, don't forget to change that oil afterwards - a body needs good rich blood, and so does a motor.

Have a great day Allan, I've gotta get to work. Just tryin to help, as most do and have, but I'm still waitin' for a suggestion from that other guy though.

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Mike (WA)

11-08-2004 08:20:31




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 Re: Chevy 350 in reply to Mark - IN., 11-08-2004 05:43:26  
I'm not that other guy, but if you're talking about the one who thought is was freeze plugs behind the flywheel, I didn't take his comment as a cheap shot- just an acknowledgement that the fix is obvious, and not easy- pull the tranny, remove bell housing, remove flywheel- and it may be easier to just pull the engine, as it's going to be difficult to get to the plugs unless you do.



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Mark - IN.

11-08-2004 15:01:14




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 No, it wasn't you in reply to Mike (WA), 11-08-2004 08:20:31  
No Mike, it was someone that made the comment that those "who so obviously have no clue what they're talking about shouldn't offer imaginary solutions", then went on to say that from some of the posts he/she read, it's obvious that some of the people have no idea what a small block is.

Mike, I'm an easy going person. People ask questions to get help or ideas, no big deal. The people that posted offered ideas, some that didn't pan out. No big deal, but they offered, and they simply didn't pan out, and at least they offered helpful suggestions.

That apparent expert took a cheap shot and swipe at ???, possibly me, then offered no help, solution, or suggestion. I don't opperate that way, and if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, and will admit it. And when I find out the solution, I'll offer it up so that no one else makes my same mistakes.

Hey, I'm rusty. It's been a while, but little by little I remember things as I think of them. You're ok Mike, you don't opperate like that guy either. Thanks buddy, and sorry if there was a misunderstanding generated on my part.

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Mark - IN.

11-07-2004 22:18:50




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 Re: Chevy 350 in reply to Tweeter, 11-07-2004 14:50:45  
Tweeter, lets see if I've got this right, ok? You're finding antifreeze around the rear of a cylinder head, right? Maybe on or around the deck (where the head meets the block), right so far?

You say that it's overheating, right? You also say that antifreeze is going out the tailpipe, right again?

If you only had a leaking intake manifold gasket and antifreeze was being sucked into the cylinders and blown out the tailpipe, it aint gonna "overheat" from that, not unless is running lean (hot) from a vacuum leak as well. Yeah, it would send moist (white watered down) exhaust out the tailpipe.

But since you said is overheating, and blowing out the tailpipe, it's obviously getting into your cylinders - and that's typical of a head gasket. Been there, done that more than once.

On your last post, someone took a shot at some of the replies and "imaginary" problems or solutions, but then offered no solution or suggestion - only a cheap shot. It's been years and I don't remember the specs off the top of my head, and admit to being rusty, but other than torque specs, I could take that motor apart and put it together in my sleep, and probably have more than once. Now let's see if that other guy stands up and offers a solution.

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Tweeter

11-08-2004 10:02:26




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 Re: Chevy 350 in reply to Mark - IN., 11-07-2004 22:18:50  
Im not absolutely sure im having an overheating problem. The thermostat could be wrong but the guage was climbing to the red. I shut the motor off before it got there.



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Mark - IN.

11-08-2004 15:12:40




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 Re: Chevy 350 in reply to Tweeter, 11-08-2004 10:02:26  
Well, good luck just the same Tweeter.

One guy suggested using a mirror to view the backside where it's hard to see. That was an excellent idea. Rinse the motor off, move it a few feet where it's dry, and between your eyes and mirror, chances are pretty good.

One way or the other, you'll get it. Asking questions can only help, never be afraid to do so.



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RJ-AZ

11-07-2004 15:26:55




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 Re: Chevy 350 in reply to Tweeter, 11-07-2004 14:50:45  
Probably the intake manifold. I have seen them so rotted out you have to replace it. There are water ports on the heads and are generaly blanked out on the intake manifold except for those with a heater hose that came off of the passenger side rear corner.



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