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CaliforniaDreamer

12-07-2005 09:59:31

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My wife & I have recently retired and have purchased a farm in the area of east central Kansas. We haven�t moved there yet but will soon. I�m asking your advice.
The farm is 160 acres of which 120 are tillable with the balance in pasture & yard with some out buildings.
I have purchased the following equipment to farm it. 8n tractor because my neighbor told me they are really good so he sold me his for only 4300 dollars.
I�d like to run it on bio-diesel to be environmentally friendly.
I�ve also purchased a 4-16 plow, a 15 foot bush cutter and 10ft harrow disk for the tractor. I�m planning to raise lima beans, sugar cane and pigmy goats. A John Deere 9650 combine for the lima beans and the sugar cane. Is sugar cane difficult to combine?
One of my new neighbors said it is?
The tractor does need some work because I think I ran it out of oil just running around the yard. Where do you check the oil on these things and can I use the same oil I use in my (2)Escalades.
I also need advice on a trailer for the goats and crops to pull behind the Escalade as I will have to pick them up in Kansas City. I also need to know what to wear when farming. I don�t want to look dumb but, fit in.
Thanks for your assistance. Californian to be farmer.

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farmalmv

12-13-2005 03:17:14

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

I want to see that dual purpose bean/sugarcane combine. maybe i could use it down here in Louisiana for my sugarcane.

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Bruce in KS

12-08-2005 16:43:35

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Your not going to be able to use that 4-16 plow on your 8N right away until you special order that oil Specter mentioned. Tractor Supply in Olathe should stock a made in china hitch that will fit on one of your Escalades. That way you can work your ground this weekend before the 10 inches of snow we got melts and be warm in the caddy. Thats reminds me of another thing you should look into, a cab for your 8n.

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T_Bone

12-08-2005 14:02:27

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Re: BobMo... (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Thanks Bob, that was worth reading today. Atleast you brought some laughter with you!!!

T_Bone

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BobMo

12-08-2005 14:26:26

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T-Bone in reply to T_Bone, 12-08-2005 14:02:27

Welllll, when its 10 degrees snow'in and the hays all sold a guys just got to much time on his hands and he could get into trouble I guess. Thanks,

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smokieborde

12-08-2005 12:05:58

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

better get a set of those hellfire spark plugs to
light that bio diesel on the 8N

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ldycop269

12-08-2005 10:57:35

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

I can't believe all these farmers failed to mention you will need a hellicopter to pollinate your sugar cane, it would also help to have a turbo thrush on stand-by to spray all your acreage

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ldycop269

12-08-2005 10:55:41

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

I can't believe all these farmers failed to mention you will ned a hellicopter to pollinate your sugar cane, it would also help to have a turbo thrush on stand-by to spray all your acreage

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Jason, NW Ontario

12-08-2005 05:55:14

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

You had me there for a few lines, but then my eyes started welling up with laughter. This world needs more wit, and hopefully someone can learn from your style. Thanks for making my sides hurt!

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I'mheretohelp?

12-08-2005 05:15:30

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Mr. Dreamer;
I applaud you in your efforts to this point, but it is apparent that you will need some additional help in your farming plan.
I'm sure by contacting the organization below, they will be more than willing to guide you to a productive and rewarding fulfillment of your goal.
A short video or film of your operation might help. In fact it could possibly lead to yet another life altering change.

Help is here!

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JDknut

12-08-2005 03:30:46

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Hey Dreamer: what ya been smokin', sounds like some righteous stuff. If you can grow that on your farm, you will make a fortune, even with an 8N doing the tillage. :-)

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Christos

12-07-2005 22:39:30

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Geez Cali-dreamer... Sounds like you've got your foot in the right direction. You might want to stop by your local house of worship before you leave to make sure God has ordainded you to be a farmer. Thats the way I was told to do it - so far the jury is out!

BTW...this was the best laugh I had all day...an 8n pulling 4-16.....lol...

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Specter

12-07-2005 21:06:01

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Hold on a minute, I have to get back in my chair, catch my breath, and wipe the tears off my face...

Ah, there. First of all, you have to tell us how you got the rearend of that 8N to handle the power of that big Cat engine you must have put in there.

Now, as to check the oil. You have to find a small punch, and a really big hammer. Put a hole in the oilpan at about the mark where it meets the engine block. If oil comes out, you have enough oil in there.

Ah, yes, the type of oil you have to put in. You need Ultra-duty lithium strontium chromate oil. I have some, but I can't get it to you right now. My sled dogs are sick. Also there is another 2 week blizzard coming up here in Canada.

You can run biodiesel in your combine, but you have to be careful not to let it sit in your tank for too long. It will start sprouting in there, you know, and clog up your fuel lines.

For clothing, you have to find a pair of dusty and patched overalls, a faded plaid shirt, and a wheat stem dangling from the corner of your mouth. Oh yes, and don't forget the ubiquitous (look that up in your dictionary!) ballcap from the local feedmill.

Let us know how it goes!

Specter at the northern end of the Earth

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weum

12-07-2005 15:51:22

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

the 8N will be fine with all that equipment, but the bio-diesel will not work the 8N is a gasoline motor, and to get it to use the equipment you have you are going to have to find someway to install a ford 460 cid. motor and run nitrous..you will probably need to install ROPS when you kick the PTO in on that big of a bush hog it will probably turn the tractor over instead of the pto. you may consider trying to plow with those goats..

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tator

12-07-2005 15:28:05

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

i think you should try growing rice in ks. since its so flat, water wont run off. may have to import water, but since youre moving from ca you may be able to bring some with you. as far as the 8n go for it, but need to order a windmill for it.

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john in la

12-07-2005 18:17:14

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to tator, 12-07-2005 15:28:05

I thought good flat land was for cat fish farming.

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tator

12-07-2005 20:39:59

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to john in la, 12-07-2005 18:17:14

never thought of that.

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BobHnwOh

12-07-2005 15:10:56

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

SPOOF!!

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Dixieland

12-07-2005 14:46:42

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Jeepers!

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Rufus Windrow

12-07-2005 13:48:51

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Here's a few words of advice from someone who knows. First, check with GM, I think the Escalade warranty is void if you get any feathers or chaf inside the vehicle. Then, put your Ford N on ebay and "sell it now" for maybe 8 grand, you can almost double your money overnight. Lastly, there are a lot of Essex Tri Directionals out there in California that a guy can pick up for a song. I would suggest the ETD "Stubble Jumper" model for good fuel economy on that bio-whateveritis fuel you plan to use. Do a quick tuneup on it and grow pineapples, they are an up-and-coming crop up in the Yukon (my Uncle Festus Grimes farms them) near Jakes Corner so I don't see why a guy couldn't pull it off in California. Good luck with your venture and ignore all those ignoramus' below that are jerking your chain. You will make out just fine.

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CaliforniaDreamer

12-07-2005 12:08:35

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Okay, okay I get it I'll drop the sugar cane idea, order a bigger tractor and just stick with the goats and beans. My wife told me if I loose more than a million in this venture I have to move to OR. Thanks for not making fun of me.

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Billy Bobby 66

12-09-2005 17:10:11

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 12:08:35

Hey California Dreamer. Thats an interesting name considering your from down near Kissimmee Florida.

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doogdoog

12-08-2005 01:19:41

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 12:08:35

Aloha, He,he,he. Too much beans! Wow! Aaaaaa aak, light the match! Boom!

Mahalo,
doogdoog

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fluggie in IA

12-07-2005 12:43:13

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 12:08:35

I trust you plan to have fun and hope to make a little money at this venture. You will surely have fun if you are very careful. Farming in a very dangerous profession so please don't go at it light hearted thinking it is all fun & games. It only takes a second to lose and arm, hand, leg or life. Anyway, it is a great life! If you haven't already, you may want to contact vegetable packing plants as lots of them contract for farmers to raise veggies for them. Use that 8n for yard and get yourself like a nice old Farmall 806, 1206, 1066 or such for the big field work. Most of all, have fun!

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supergrumpy

12-07-2005 12:06:00

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

by golly, I do exactly that in upstate NY

double crop-plant the beans in with the sugar cane and let those pigmy goats graze under that cane, keeps the weeds down plus fertilizes that cane

not sure what an 8n is but I use a D-6, the cane makes excellent ethanol for use in the D-6 plus comes in handy for xmas parties too

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12-07-2005 11:50:09

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

good luck. the 8n will be fine. the bio diesel will work as long as you buy the pink type. you will need to special order the oil for it and don't neglect the windshield wipers on it also. you will need the high clearence type combine or else the sugar cane will just clog up. not sure why you bought the 15 ft mower as with a 8n i would think a 20 ft would be the smallest you would want to use.

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Sam (MO)

12-07-2005 11:33:37

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

and to think I had crazy idea's....

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12-07-2005 11:31:14

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

If you're serious and not just haveing some fun with us here, check back archives for here, using tractor, Kountry life, Implement Alley. Try going to farm area for a couple years first and just rent the tillable acreage at market rate as county bankers say is fair. Then check what is grown in the area. You seem to be getting in trouble right now. At least renting will reduce loss. RN

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former Kansas farmkid

12-07-2005 11:13:34

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Thanks I need a good laugh today.

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dhermesc

12-07-2005 11:08:17

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Someone from California is going to see this post and get really angry. Meanwhile this boy from Kansas is laughing his *** off.

Best advice for you is to plant a "FOR SALE" sign on your 160 acres.

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Don-Wi

12-07-2005 19:47:11

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to dhermesc, 12-07-2005 11:08:17

Naw, you only need 20 acres to grow a good crop of for sale signs. The rest can be no trespassing, no hunting, for rent, wanted, for hire, etc etc... The bigger ones you can get a good penny for, but ya gotta fertilize them real heavy. I tried planting my 1600 once and then the 285, but that didn't work. All they got was muddy. Donovan from Wisconsin

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37 chief

12-07-2005 12:13:00

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to dhermesc, 12-07-2005 11:08:17

I am from Calif, and am not angry at all. This is not for real. It can't be. If it is, this is the same kind of guy that will be running around a airport looking for prop wash, or a bag to go snipe hunting. Stan in calif

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old

12-07-2005 10:48:01

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Well if your telling the truth then I'm soory to here how you have been used by others. 8N for that price, well you got took by at least $1500 if not $2000. 4 bottom behind and N would be like you tring to pull a plow behind your car, isn't going to happen. Same with the brush hog. 8N is about 23 HP and for a 4 bottom plow you need at least 50HP as for the hog the same way. Kansas is wheat country by the way.

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ricedaddy

12-07-2005 10:43:20

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

You must be a senator or congressman. Don't forget to pick up a 10 tine, subsoiler to pull 30" deep, the faster you go the better it will work so try road gear first!As for as what to wear, you wear only a pair of overall's and a toothpick in your mouth.

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caseyc

12-07-2005 10:38:26

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

i don't know wether to laugh or to cry..... .....we sure are a bunch of nice guys IF this poor fellow is for real!

casey in SD

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ruh roh

12-07-2005 10:53:13

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to caseyc, 12-07-2005 10:38:26

Even from Mexifornia,can't possibly be that nieve.

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Tim...Ok

12-07-2005 10:34:49

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Hahahaha..

Yep,central Kansas is prime sugar cane land,you should be richer before you know it.. getcha the biggest John Deere combine you can buy for that sugar cane..that'll help.. What a deal on that 8N,those take special oil,which I just happen to have a bunch of and it is for sale..how much you need?? LOL hope you got the 15' batwing mower for that 8N,won't fit thru gates otherwise..

thanks for the laugh..
Tim

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12-07-2005 10:29:11

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Fairy tale!

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greenmech

12-07-2005 10:20:17

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

I would like to see the 8N pull that 4-16 plow or run on that bio-diesel.:)

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JDB

12-08-2005 10:28:05

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to greenmech, 12-07-2005 10:20:17

He never said he was going to put the plow IN the ground ( grin )

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sammy the RED

12-07-2005 10:10:03

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Stay in Calif. ;o]

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Buster

12-07-2005 10:07:30

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Have you ever seen the old TV series, Green Acres, if you will follow those guidelines from that TV show you will do fine!

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Coloken

12-07-2005 10:03:59

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to CaliforniaDreamer, 12-07-2005 09:59:31

Must be a cold morning with nothing to do..... ....

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Harley

12-07-2005 12:21:55

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to Coloken, 12-07-2005 10:03:59

California Dreamin, you need to get hold of me and Akmed down here in the Ozarks, kinda east of you. Have we got a deal for you. Not only advice, but material, equipment, livestock, the whole works. We"ll fix you right up. Harley

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Jerry Cent. Mi.

12-07-2005 12:51:37

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Re: New Farmer (need advice) in reply to Harley, 12-07-2005 12:21:55

An 8-N will struggle with a 2 bottom 14 inch three point plow in clay loam soil.

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