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Barn and Shop Lighting

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Chances R

12-29-2005 05:22:24




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Any thoughts on what a man should get. I have a 16' ceiling and will want the shop (24' x 50') to be very well lit. The barn (32' x 50') not near as well lit as the shop. Did I mention I would like to get the most bang for the buck. How about out door lighting for loading trucks and such? We have a grainger here local. Thanks Charlie




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Richard H.

12-29-2005 15:55:26




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 Re: Barn and Shop Lighting in reply to Chances R, 12-29-2005 05:22:24  
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Charlie, see the shadow on the ceiling, all my light is going down. And for a little cost I can also change the color of the lamps to daylight, bright white or mix them. I"m electrician and have installed a lot of different systems. Hallides and sodiums are good for industrial uses not much good for seeing what you are doing because they just seem to intense. If you dont like the color you don"t have a choice. The key in either is the reflectors. My out side lights are 150 mercury vapor, seem to last a long time. HTH Richard

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Dan in Ohio

12-29-2005 13:19:10




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 Re: Barn and Shop Lighting in reply to Chances R, 12-29-2005 05:22:24  
Charlie, I just finished builing a new pole barn about the same size and am thinking about my lighting options too. I was favoring the high pressure sodium lights until I read John T's remarks, but may still go that way. I really like the high pressure sodium for outside use, but never seen what effect they have inside.



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John T

12-30-2005 09:48:31




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 Re: Barn and Shop Lighting in reply to Dan in Ohio, 12-29-2005 13:19:10  
Dan, everything might look sort of yellow if used indoors, not so bad for warehouse storage, although they have improved with new lamp coatings. The Metal Halide HID with coated lamps dont look too bad if you choose to go with HID. The High Pressure Sodium are more for parking lots etc. In small shops a lot of guys mix some Metal Halide HID over the storage areas but strip fluorescents (with good reflectors) or incandescents over the work benches where HID could pose some glare n reflection problems. Many many years ago I attended a week long Lighting Seminar at GE"s NELA Park facility but I done forgot most of that by now.

John T

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VADAVE

12-29-2005 08:14:29




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 Re: Barn and Shop Lighting in reply to Chances R, 12-29-2005 05:22:24  
My shop is 40 X 30 with 16 foot ceilings and I used 4 foot shop lights, florecent(sp). Four rows of four lights each lights the shop very well.



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John T

12-29-2005 07:46:52




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 Re: Barn and Shop Lighting in reply to Chances R, 12-29-2005 05:22:24  
Charlie, if its not cost prohibitive you would get a ton of lumens per watt, efficiency, energy savings and good lighting if you used Low Bay High Intensity Discharge (HID) Fixtures. You can probably get them in 240 volt single phase (check with Grainger) which is what I would recommend over 120 volt. The drawbacks are higher initial cost, long warm up and restrike times, and poorer color rendition, but the Coated Metal Halide lamps yield pretty decent color. They can be bought with the extra quartz lamps if restrike time is a problem. Higher efficiency would be to use High Pressure Sodium, but the color sucks. Lesser efficient would be Mercury Vapor.

If you dont wanna spring for HID Lighting you could go with strip fluorescents, 4 or 8 foot and use high efficiency low noise electronic ballasts. Also buy them with good reflectors unless you had them right up against an all white ceilings which I doubt you have in a shop.

Least efficient but lowest initial cost and no warm up problems and good color is, of course, incandescent, maybe the larger units with the Mogul Base, but again use good reflector type fixtures.

John T Nordhoff in Indiana, Retired Electrical Engineer

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Coloken

12-29-2005 06:17:04




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 Re: Barn and Shop Lighting in reply to Chances R, 12-29-2005 05:22:24  
I still like to use clear glass bulbs. Not the household "soft light" ones. Lots of them, so no shadows. Florescent ones don't satisfy me.



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shoe

12-29-2005 05:58:35




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 Re: Barn and Shop Lighting in reply to Chances R, 12-29-2005 05:22:24  
Don't forget about good old natural light, plenty
of windows. As far as artificial lighting, any-
thing but floresent lights, seems as they cast
too much of a shadow unless the tube is real
close to you ,like over the shop bench, or for
a portible trouble lite. White colored wall and
ceiling helps too.



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