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OT...Blowing Light Bulbs

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John M

02-11-2006 05:30:54




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Im blowing light bulbs left and right here in the house,even new ones,the one in the dryer,the ones in the fridge,the one in my lamp here at the desk,evreywhere inside.HAdnt blowed any in the barn,whoich ar just regualr incadescent buldbs as well,one florescent in the garage,an outlet in the garage and the wifes dishwasher burt up last night,and as Im typing,the new bulb in my lamp I just put in like 30 minutes ago just blew again.Electrician came out yesterday afternoon and says eveything looks fine.Suggested I call power company and see what they say. Nothing blew or went out while he was here.What do yall think?

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Janicholson

02-11-2006 18:19:00




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to John M, 02-11-2006 05:30:54  
Saw one light in the bedroom get brighter, and the plugged in bedside light get dimmer. Emergency!! run to the basement with volt meter check both sides of the 220 single phase. Not the same, 96 vac on one leg, 134+ on the other. Pulled the 200 amp breaker. Called the power company (went through about 6 levels of button pushing to get to a person.
Third person listened and sent trucks in mass.
200 people on the distribution leg were affected. Thermal imaging found a red hot neutral clamp on 2600 volt line. They shut off the power for 15 minutes and replaced the clamp. Then came and thanked me in person for saving their collective orifice.
JimN

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Dave NE IA

02-11-2006 07:10:36




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to John M, 02-11-2006 05:30:54  
Your electrician should have told you over the phone it was a bad nuteral. I'm guessing your discription of electrician is indeed a friend with good intentions. My goodness any electrician should have at a min. checked all connections and added a crimp to the nuteral on top of the line. (SORRY IF HE ALREADY DID THAT)If it has not effected the other feeds / barn it pretty well tells you it is on the house side of the nuteral and not on the power companys side although perhaps not totaly impossible. Consider yourself fortunate that it has only cost you a dishwasher so far and a few bulbs. Shut the computer completly off and check your insurance policy's, enter the EMS and fire department on your speed dial. Real bad things can happen here, don't put it off till Monday. Perhaps a little extreem but I would consider pulling the meter till a qualified electrician can get there. Don't be grabbing ground rod wires anywhere. Dave NE IA

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John M

02-11-2006 07:06:52




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to John M, 02-11-2006 05:30:54  
The problem apparently lies further down the road from me.The ycam out within a few minutes of me calling,checked all of my connections and then went on up the road.I saw them at the point the line splits off to come down to my house then they went on up the road.Power went out for about 20 minutes and has now come back on.Havent blowed a bulb yet.Guy came back while I was typing,said a line up the road had a problem,told me to get the reciepts for the bulbs and dishwasher and wahtever ele it knocked out and they would reimburse me.Hes now going from house to house telling them the same.Thanks guys!

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Richard H.

02-11-2006 10:21:36




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to John M, 02-11-2006 07:06:52  
You really have no idea what effect this problem has done to the things that still work. Your computer, TVs, micro waves, washing machine etc. Two times we have been drilled by lightning and of course thats an ins. problem. They (power co.) have admitted fault by contacting your neighbors. The way you misspell(sp) things I say your computer is bad!
Richard



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John M

02-11-2006 10:39:27




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to Richard H., 02-11-2006 10:21:36  
Ill assume the last sentence was meant as a joke?



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DAVE NE IA

02-11-2006 07:28:08




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to John M, 02-11-2006 07:06:52  
After I posted I seen your additional post and please apoligize to the electrician for me, although I will give him the benifit of the doubt that he called the power company while he was at your place. Up here in red neck country we went to assist a neighboring fire department three times in two weeks for two barn fires (same barn) and a house fire in the same house yard. Of course arson was the only thing considered the first two fires. Only then they called the power company after the second barn fire. Before the power company found the problem the house caught fire. Yea the fire marshal still assumed arson after the house burned (thats what their training is on). Although admitting no wrong doing the power company did some work up the road and somehow all is well. Again my appologies to the electrician. Dave NE IA

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John M

02-11-2006 07:52:47




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to DAVE NE IA, 02-11-2006 07:28:08  
I know when he was here,he went back through everything he had done when he first rewired the house and made sure all the connections were tight.This is what I meant when he said everything on his end was fine.He did tell me it was fine on his end and I should call the pwoer comapny but didnt say why.As far as why none have blown in the barn,I guess maybe I just didnt have the lights on at the right time or something.They very seldom get used during the winter and the only time I go down there in the winter is mostly during the day.No offense will be taken, as I know where you were coming from!

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Dave NE IA

02-11-2006 08:22:19




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to John M, 02-11-2006 07:52:47  
John did the power company give you a open window for appliance repairs of some nature? I guess I have no idea what would be a reasonable time frame on this. Dave NE IA



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John M

02-11-2006 09:20:41




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to Dave NE IA, 02-11-2006 08:22:19  
They havent really said anything about a day.I was just talking to my neighbor who said he had several lights and a ceiling fan go out within the last 6 days,which matches about what I had go out.Going to get together with some other neighbors tonite and see what they have to say.but I think the power company will step up and do the right thing



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genep

02-11-2006 05:56:28




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to John M, 02-11-2006 05:30:54  
It sounds suspiciously like a bad connection at the neutral in your meter base or in your breaker panel. The wire or connectors could be burned or broken, even at the weather head or transformer. Aluminum wire is especially bad for this, especially if you have an underground service. If the neutral doesn't have a good connection the 120 volts on each leg will be unbalanced, with one leg having high voltage and the other low by the same amount. It's awfully hard on appliances, too. Symptoms are some bulbs bright while others are dim and fast or slow running appliances. I hope you find it soon.

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sparkiees66

02-11-2006 05:47:39




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to John M, 02-11-2006 05:30:54  
You are loosing your nuetral intermittenly. It will be most likely to blow a bulb or something else when a load starts in the house like a water pump, fridge or a shop tool. Get the electrician to check and tighten up your nuetral connection in your panel and your meter socket. Good luck Mike



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Alan B.

02-11-2006 05:46:58




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to John M, 02-11-2006 05:30:54  
John it sounds like you have lost your service neutral coming from the transformer to the hose give your power company a call now and dont turn anytine 110 on untill they can come out and check it out. Your computer is 110 also so call now.

Alan B 27 years as a lineman call them now!!!



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Richard H.

02-11-2006 06:19:38




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to Alan B., 02-11-2006 05:46:58  
Alan, when I was an IBEW app. my wife and I bought a small house for a starter home. 30+ years ago. She kept telling me she was getting shocked while doing dishes or washng her hair in the kitchen sink. Of course I said "ya"ll right", until one evening I"m in the tub running my bath and reach up to turn off the water and ZOWIE.. Apparently when the contractor install the meter base on the side of the house he thought he"d take a short cut and split the neutral and use the lag bolt and a washer to splice it. GGRRRRrrr

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fixerupper

02-11-2006 07:28:02




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to Richard H., 02-11-2006 06:19:38  
Had that happen with a hog waterer with electric heat once. The hogs wouldn't touch it but I never felt a thing if I touched it. Of course I wasn't standing there with bare feet like they were. After a LOT of searching and several days of watering them with a tank, I found a corroded neutral on top of the pole by the barn. Someone had clamped a copper wire directly to an aluminum one up there. We all know what caused the corrosion. Yes, the waterer was properly grounded too. Jim

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IaGary

02-11-2006 16:31:06




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to fixerupper, 02-11-2006 07:28:02  
Richard hogs and cattle can feel lower and have less tolerance to voltage. You could be barefoot and still not feel as low of voltage as a hog.
Just my thoughts.



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buickanddeere

02-11-2006 20:47:28




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 Re: OT...Blowing Light Bulbs in reply to IaGary, 02-11-2006 16:31:06  
That's one of the reasons why a ground wire should never be used as a neutral.



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