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ollie66

04-09-2006 17:14:13




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Looking at a 1992 1 ton dodge dually, diesel w/automatic trans. Will be pulling gooseneck trailer and tractor weighing around 14000 lbs. Would like to hear pros&cons. Thank-you.




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ollie66

04-11-2006 08:37:20




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 Re: o/t dodge pickup in reply to ollie66, 04-09-2006 17:14:13  
Thanks to all who answered. Helpful info.



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Luke S

04-10-2006 06:17:18




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 Re: o/t dodge pickup in reply to ollie66, 04-09-2006 17:14:13  
Well, I have a little experience in this area. I stillhave an old 92' Dodge that we still occasionally pull our 48' stepdeck trailer with. Just hauled a pretty good load last week, the trailer is just shy of 8,000lbs, one of the trucks was 6,500lbs, and the other one was 7,300lbs. So that is just shy of 22,000lbs. The truck weighs about 8,000, so I was around 30,000 gross, plus or minus 1,000lbs. That is not the heaviest I've pulled though. I've had 17 1,100lb bales on that trailer with a loader tractor way back on the dovetail, don't want to do the math on that as it may scare me!

Here is a link to the pic..... .....

http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/showphoto.php?photo=18048&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1

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colekicker

04-10-2006 00:54:14




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 Re: o/t dodge pickup in reply to ollie66, 04-09-2006 17:14:13  
Diesel truck resource. Lots of good info on that site all about your subject. Good luck.



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the tractor vet

04-09-2006 18:06:03




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 Re: o/t dodge pickup in reply to ollie66, 04-09-2006 17:14:13  
well the dodge is ok just like anyother truck they have there problems but if you are going to TRY and pull that kind of weight scrap the slush box and go for a gear drive it takes IRON TO HAUL IRON. and ya don't want not desert gears either , that is alot to ask from a one ton by the time ya figure in the weight of the truck and the weight of the trailer you are going to be pushen 29-30000 lbs.

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JDknut

04-10-2006 03:43:38




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 Re: o/t dodge pickup in reply to the tractor vet, 04-09-2006 18:06:03  
I want to offer a dissenting opinion. Properly set up and cooled, a "slush box" is not necessarily worse than a manual gear box for hauling heavy loads, in fact it may be better, no clutch to slip, the torque converter offers a torque multiplication effect on load startup, less shock loads on the drivetrain, etc. Fire trucks, Greyhound buses, city buses, garbage trucks and large earthmovers have been using automatics for years, and no one can say that is easy service. The lockup clutches in modern automatics reduce the fuel economy penalty. That said, one disadvantage of the automatic is less engine braking, altho the later autos are adaptable to that as well.

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Mike (WA)

04-10-2006 08:26:47




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 Re: o/t dodge pickup in reply to JDknut, 04-10-2006 03:43:38  
Possible weak spot is the torque converter- I bought a '99 Dodge used, and it has Banks turbo, big exhaust, etc., etc., put on "aftermarket". Engine is strong as a bull, but torque converter started slipping under load. Had to replace it, and tranny guy said it is common when truck was not "heavy duty" from the factory, but engine was later juiced by the buyer. The outfits pushing the turbos and speed equipment won't mention it, because it would double the cost of the "hop-up", and they would probably lose a sale. There are 3 "levels" of torque converter, and you've got to get into the factory "heavy duty" packages before they put in the heavier TC's. Dodge dealer could probably decode it from the numbers and tell you what its got.

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Luke S

04-10-2006 08:51:09




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 Re: o/t dodge pickup in reply to Mike (WA), 04-10-2006 08:26:47  
There were no "heavy duty" converters or anything specially installed from the factory. They all used the same converters, or in other words, there was no option to get a better converter factory installed, they were all the same. However, Dodge has made improvments as they went. They made huge improvments from the 02' to the 03' model when they droped the tired old 47re and went to the much improved 48re. A big factor with older Dodge/Cummins auto's was the rear gears. 4.10 axle ratio's made a huge improvement in how they pulled, 3.54's were a little tall for heavy pulling. The real early Dodge/Cummins had the old 3-speed 727 auto without a lock-up converter and with no overdrive. They were tough tranny's, but weren't that great for heavy pulling due to the fact that Dodge put 3.07 gears in them to get some more speed out of a 3 speed tranny. If the truck has a 4.10 axle ratio, and you pull mainly in third(direct) instead of 4th(overdrive) it should do pretty good. In the new 3rd gen rams with the 48re trans. you can pull in overdrive with no problems.

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Luke S

04-10-2006 08:53:33




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 Re: o/t dodge pickup in reply to Luke S, 04-10-2006 08:51:09  
I am a Dodge dealer by the way.



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