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Local family farms- Depressing-LONG

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Dave from MN

08-10-2006 19:41:57




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Just need to unload a little here. Ya know , ya grow in awe at the farmers around your neighborhood, your uncles , your grandfather, and other farms. Since being a kid round here I have seen my childhood idols farms grind down to nothing. I have seen one awesome family farm slowly wittle away since a suicide in the family. I have watched my granfathers farm go from 400+ acres to 200, to a split farmstead due to divorce, due to alcohol. Now to the point that the land will probably all be sold to a non relative and that farm I love soo much will be off limits and probably divided up. I visit with a old neighbor that at one time had 600 acres of the best land around. Now he rents his own house from some one that bought the buildings and a few acres, the rest of the land sold off in parcels year by year to a very well to do doctor. Land is well worth $10,000/ acre, and his farm is all gone and he, has nothing. Residual of dirty banking rates and elimination of grade B milk at very high interest times. I've seen a old fellow that had 400 acres sell 3/4 of it off cheap to a bunch of shifty people, only to make a gentlmans deal to sell the rest and be able to live till he passes in his home he was born in, only to have the buyer of the land call the county which ends in the house being condemned and he moved to nursing home, pretty much broke. I'm watching Millionairs buy up the other farmsteads at prices and deals that no ordinary guy like me can even hope of getting financing for. I listen to kids I grew up with talk about the $$$ they are gonna get once they inheret the family farm. I'm sick of it. I know I can make it as a small timer, but the landscape, the new neighbors, the lack of a close knit community make me just want to sell out at the going rate and buy some land in a place far away from here where people still have pride in their parents and grandparent property. My dreams of someday getting my mother childhood home are pretty much gone. County felt this area should be zoned 4 homes /40 acres and it seems young and old alike are jumping on that wagon., and I can honesty say that it makes me sick. Well , was kinda of a depressing day what with reality crushing childhood dreams and all. Those of you that are keeping the family farm in the family and keeping it a family FARM- I salute you and I envy you.

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Billy NY

08-11-2006 12:19:46




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2006 19:41:57  
This evolution of things as seen today and speculated for tomorrow, based on what we see happening today, seems as if once the damage is done, and recognized as a negative impact, it's always after the fact, and too late to change.

I honestly don't know what the solution is, without agriculture and traditional families continuing to form and keep things together, as well as property taxes, jobs to support farming operations that are not profit makers or alternate land uses besides developing, is our land just going to get swallowed up and become one mass suburbia some day ?

Same thing here, 10-15K for an acre, taxes on 98 acres here is over 8K annually and what really SUCKS is that this county really penalizes you if you get behind, no you can't catch up a few years or whateve is in arrears, you must pay it all, other counties are not like that, so backtaxes can lose your property quickly.

Developers are swarmed and lined up to ruin a huge part of our town, a once proud agricultural town, we used to sell Ford tractors to all the farmers who liked them, and the other guy sold JD and we even had a long time International dealer too, that was it. We are close to a city, but there was a line, that line is moving closer.

The whole thing is insane, some really nice property with views for 40-50 miles, rolling hills, some excellent crop and hay land, even if it is not flat, the hills make it interesting and give it character.

No longer desirable to farm due to expense and little profit, everyone that is left wants out to retire, not have the tax payment etc. One guy in town has bought his fair share to keep open, supporting a long established horse operation, but not everyone is going to buy and keep it open. It's a sad state of affairs, then you see how much is manufactured out of the country, and it's effects here.

It's hard to complain about what ain't yours and what happens to it, but what is the solution to keeping things to a minimum and not sacrificing a way of life, like many prefer in the open space.

Even within family, market prices of some land is far out of reach and ends up on the open market because that families members cannot afford it.

It's a huge problem without a lot of solutions, very hard to accept that some of our most cherished lands and farms will end up in the abyss of development.

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old fashioned farmer

08-11-2006 06:59:06




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2006 19:41:57  
Howdy,

Yep, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I grew up living right beside my grandad's farm (160 acres) in S. Ohio. I worked on it and other farms and loved it. I went to college to become a meteorologist and did well. During college my grandad died and grandma got bad enough to need nursing home care. I graduated and soon learned that to do that job would require me to move to who knows where and live in a cramped up apartment. I decided I didn't need that kind of "success". I'm now two years out of college, still living at home till I can make a deal on living in the old farmhouse and work for CaseIH about 30 miles from home. A lot of people look at me and you can read the word failure in their thoughts but they don't understand what is at stake. It's all the things you just talked about and I'll fight with all I have to keep what we have. God bless.

--old fashioned farmer

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BobMo

08-11-2006 06:26:27




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2006 19:41:57  
Regrettably some of the answers lay in your own statement. Currently no land is worth 10,000 an acre to farm. You simply can't farm that much out of it. Believe it or not there are lots of people that kind of money is only chump change.
As sad as it is that is the way of things today. Most farmers don't want to end up poor just for the sake of being a farmer.
God help us!!!!! !



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M Nut

08-11-2006 06:25:16




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2006 19:41:57  
Couldn't have said it any better myself. When my wife and I had the opportunity to purchase the family farm from my grandmother, we jumped. It has been in the family since 1895 when family arrived from Sweeden. 20 Acres of the original 160 had been sold off, but we were able to buy another 80 acres just across the road from us. So we have 220 acres to play on. Buildings are in much need of repair, spent two years on the house, and just started on the old barn that was built in 1910 this week. Thankfully it is in better shape than I was thinkling. Lots of work, but it is do able. This farm WILL stay in the family as long as I am alive. I don't care what it is worth, it WON'T be for sale at any price. I grew up in a family with very little money, learned to worked hard, and that is good enough for me. I can't take the money with when I leave anyway. Besides, where I am going that money won't even compare to true "riches".

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Dachshund

08-11-2006 06:05:01




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2006 19:41:57  
Well - I see SOME of the same happening here in SE Nebraska. We are close enough to Kansas City that several places have "popped up" that are owned by "people with money" from KC. Been going on for 30 years. My wife and I currently live on 100 acres of my family's farm.It's been in the family since 1867. We are in the process of cutting it down to 40 acres. The other 60 will be offered to family members (we don't have any kids) first, but if none wants it, then we will have to sell it on the open market. We are doing this because of taxes, fuel costs, and because my disability won't let me take care of the full 100 acres like it needs to be done. The 40 we will keep is a bit more sustainable for me. I doubt I will get more than $1000 - $1200 per acre, though. The BIG-TIME deep pockets haven't hit here yet. We are only 2 1/2 miles from a town of 1800, but expansion is unlikely (downsized the chicken plant and all the mexicans moved on).

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mile0001

08-10-2006 22:13:31




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2006 19:41:57  
Where are you at in MN? We're in the very SE corner of the state, and it isn't that bad yet, but in a few years it probably will be.



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Dave from mn

08-11-2006 08:33:22




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to mile0001, 08-10-2006 22:13:31  
Central MN



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Davis In SC

08-10-2006 21:24:43




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2006 19:41:57  
It is sad to see the farms broken up.. Same thing is happening to many other businesses. All the textile mills here are gone, nothing is made in the USA anymore. The only thriving businesses are Retail & Medical.. & soon, there will be no money to suppert them, when all the farms & jobs are gone. Our Country & economy is in one heck of a mess...



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Matt from CT

08-10-2006 20:50:11




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2006 19:41:57  
I don't have a farm. Might if I'm lucky one day own a few nicer acres with a mini-farm at least.

At any rate, I'm single, might stay that way (although I have a ways to go...my Dad was 47 when he finally got hitched :) )

If I was to find out I had terminal, fast moving cancer tomorrow...

I have one nephew who runs a part-time landscaping business while he's in college. He's welcome to any tools and equipment because I know he'd make good use of them.

Anyone in the family want to buy the house, I'll sell it cheap.

But other than that, it'll all gets sold and anything after covering medical expenses get donated to charity.

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in-too-deep

08-10-2006 20:00:22




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2006 19:41:57  
Well, I haven't been as close to this monstrocity as some have, but I still feel it. Tonight I was out driving and going along Rte. 30 in northern IL. Ya know, the one that the garbage trucks travel on to dunmp the city's garbage out here? Well, near a town called Waterman they just built 40 or so huge houses, all in rows, probably of 4 different floor plans. And you know who buys them? People from the suburbs that want to live "out in the country." Little do they know, if they keep buying and building it won't be "out in the country" anymore. I understand progress, and I understand that people need a roof over their heads...but to destroy good land that was farmed for 150 years that made this country what it is, is despicable.

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don t-9n180179

08-11-2006 11:23:52




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to in-too-deep, 08-10-2006 20:00:22  
My grandma is buried in a cemetary just south of Aurora, N.E. of Oswego, Just off of RT30. It was in the middle of farm land, and had been there for a long time when she died in 1977.

It's had been many years since I stopped by to talk to her. I was in Aurora, figger I'd go there. I almost got lost. There was no farms, road construction was horrible, and we won't even talked about the traffic in the area.

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730virgil

08-11-2006 22:32:11




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to don t-9n180179, 08-11-2006 11:23:52  
mrs 730 grew up in batavia il area . she hates going back there to see her mom as all you see are cars , people houses , roads and malls i have wondered more than once how many of these high rollers really have the money they throw around or if they have a good credit rating and borrow the money and keep turning it over . guy near here will buy a farm tear out fences cut down some trees clean up a little junk . sell off buildings and few acres split rest the farm into small parcels . 1 close to me he had most of it sold before he had closed on it himself

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old

08-10-2006 20:41:29




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 Re: Local family farms- Depressing-LONG in reply to in-too-deep, 08-10-2006 20:00:22  
Yep sooner or later people will want for food that is grown not made from by products and there will be no place to do so. Sort of like the movie a number of years ago soil-lant-green. Yep spelling is off a little on that one but, now days you don't see organic food any more and they wonder why theres so much cancer, and other problems. Tom e I think its to much made made crap in the food and we keep killing our selfs with the fack stuff and never get a real true food etc.

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