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Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late

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in-too-deep

08-19-2006 19:33:23

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I was driving around the back roads tonight, and I'm amazed at how many houses there used to be. All I could see is a couple old outbuilings and a spot where a house used to stand. Some of the places had a one-story cookie-cutter house on them, which I think kinda ruins the country side. I'd love to have a country home of my own, seems I just missed the boat on most of those places. I've probably ranted about this before, but it still gets to me.

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730virgil

08-20-2006 12:16:06

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to in-too-deep, 08-19-2006 19:33:23

i had a man tell me once " we won't see it but our kids will , day will come when northren ill will be towns and cities from chicago to mississippi river " it might not take that long .

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CharleyFarmall

08-20-2006 09:55:55

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to in-too-deep, 08-19-2006 19:33:23

From the land perspective we are all a bit late I suppose, but equipement is so much better now. I use a lot of old IH tractors because I can, but I have a new tractor with cab/ac and it is real nice. Plus, it's easy for my wife to drive and as a result she likes heavy farm work.

We have almost 90 ac. and are new farmers - we both have full time jobs as well. I am fortunate enough that we can preserve a little of the area around us. Most of the area is still farmland in the immediate vicinity but it is rapidly being bought for cookie cutter houses or trailers on less than .5 acres. I lost my cattle ranching neighbor ( and hay cutter for my land) this year to a fat wallet who admitted that he would leave a few cattle for couple of years then develop the 168ac. Sad really, plus, I had begged my neighbor to sell 10ac to us as a buffer if he ever sold the land. Had that conversation just 2 weeks before the offer was made on his farm.

The new way is full size houses on postage stamps made of short lived materials....

Charley

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Matt Kane

08-20-2006 07:33:59

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to in-too-deep, 08-19-2006 19:33:23

Where I live my closest neighbors are a quarter of a mile away. I cant see a single home in sight, and I am surrounded my farmland, and woods. Wouldnt have it any other way. Down the road its a family that has kept it this way, owning over 500 acres and buying everything that comes up for sale. Our house was the first farm built around here and at one time had over 500 acres with it. Now it has 5 acres, but still has the original bank barn built in 1880. I am the 3rd generation owner, and we are slowly restoring the house and eventually will go to the barn. Feels good to bring back the old farms, and someday I will own the land around here to keep it the same way it is now. Its nice to see people who care for the old homes, once there gone, they are gone.

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Hugh MacKay

08-20-2006 02:45:52

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to in-too-deep, 08-19-2006 19:33:23

I don't know as I would call it 30 years too late. The fact the old house has been demolished may be a blessing. Over the years I've rebuilt or remodeled two old houses and three barns. In every case, it would have been less expensive to start from the ground up with a completely new building.

Just to give you an example, in 1960 my dad built a new tie stall dairy barn 36' x 100'. By 1970 the herd had outgrown the barn. In 1971 I built an extension, 46' x 130' perpendicular to the old barn for $17,000. The new area was free stall loose housing. I then remodeled the old section to be free stall, the cost $17,000. In essence it cost me $34,000. for 9,580 square feet of cattle housing.

Had I gone to a more level spot that required less excavation, I probably could have trimmed $1,500. off the $34,000. and built 260' x 46' giving me 11,960 square feet of cattle housing. The old barn was just going to be used for hay storage anyhow.

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Nebraska Cowman

08-20-2006 02:00:15

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to in-too-deep, 08-19-2006 19:33:23

Lots of areas around here there was a family on every quarter section. But they were 10-15 miles from town and on dirt roads. Now with off farm jobs it's not practical to live out there. If I had a job in town, I'd live in town.

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Steve Crum

08-19-2006 21:39:28

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to in-too-deep, 08-19-2006 19:33:23

Isn't the houses falling down that bugs me, it's the wonderful old barns I see crumbling and falling down. Most of these when abandoned were perfect but no longer viable for most purposes. I've seen many that were converted to machine sheds.
A lot of the farm land in this area is sprouting houses. One 47 acre hay field we had is now a housing development with 30 houses that you couldn't touch for less than a $1,500 a month payment and they're building more! The lots were starting at $30,000 for about an acre. My property is a 1/4 mile from there (100 yards as the crow flys) and developers have bugged me for years. I've even thrown city folk out of my hayfield. Ask them what they think they are doing? "Oh we're thinking about buying this property". Better have a real fat checkbook pal, now leave!

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in-too-deep

08-19-2006 21:45:12

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to Steve Crum, 08-19-2006 21:39:28

Yeah, I hear ya. I've got a whole 'nother rant about housing developments. The sad thing is though, you said they better have a real fat checkbook, and they do. $10,000/acre is peanuts to them.

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Hugh MacKay

08-20-2006 02:57:31

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to in-too-deep, 08-19-2006 21:45:12

Looking at these new housing developments, I call them pigpen subdivisions, crowded in like hogs. If I were to pay that much for a house, it would definitely have to be far enough away from the nearest neighbor, that I could break wind without the neighbor hearing. Good neighbors are great, but he doesn't need to be subjected to everything you do.

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Steve Crum

08-19-2006 21:56:01

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to in-too-deep, 08-19-2006 21:45:12

I was thinking 50 grand an acre. 75 grand an acre if they bring the town utilities across the creek. Told my wife 'there's my life insurance policy'.

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massey333

08-20-2006 05:17:22

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to Steve Crum, 08-19-2006 21:56:01

So you would(will) sell than. Only if it is Non Farmable Ground.

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Steve Crum

08-20-2006 05:46:25

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to massey333, 08-20-2006 05:17:22

My property consists of 12 acres of which about 8 are flat tillable and the rest for my house and 2 shop buildings and a strip ajoining woods that is considered wetland. A local farmer takes the hay off the field usually twice a season. Taxes are the biggest sticking point with me at almost $4,000 a year and showing no signs of letting up. Yes I would sell if the price is right. There's a fine line between hard business and plain foolishness. Developers hand me a piece of paper showing market values of various propertys in the area and say I'm nuts, I don't care what the average is. Thousands of herd animals go to slaughter each day. If they take their time to come down and argue the point, there's certainly value beyond market value to them. Given that I don't feel compelled to sell, I'm as far ahead to just show them the door.

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noncompos

08-19-2006 20:35:06

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to in-too-deep, 08-19-2006 19:33:23

Farms are probably going the way of ranches: smaller ones just no longer viable, being merged into larger and larger spreads, the old houses just left to gradually fall down, unless pulling them down reduces the taxes, the people scattered God knows where. Some progress, if it"s progress.

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Davis In SC

08-19-2006 19:58:53

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to in-too-deep, 08-19-2006 19:33:23

Friends tell me I live in the past, but I think I was born about 50 years too late. The only real improvements I see today are computers & Air Conditioning...

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Rich Iowa

08-19-2006 20:11:43

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to Davis In SC, 08-19-2006 19:58:53

I thought I was the only one that thought that way. I've allways thought I should have been farming back in the 40-70s.

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mtgummibear

08-20-2006 01:56:57

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to Rich Iowa, 08-19-2006 20:11:43

Are you sure you really feel that way Rich?

If you think farming is hard work now, try talking with some of the old-timers about how hard they worked in that time period you"re looking back on fondly.

I think you would have to agree that farming was much more labor intensive back then. My point is we can"t pick and choose which which aspects of "progress" we get to keep. If we benefit from all the technological and labor saving devices, then we also have to put of with the things we don"t like. The loss of the family farm and urban sprawl just to name a couple of things.

Your life would be much different (harder) if you were born 50 years earlier.

Larry

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Bob Da. (La)

08-20-2006 03:31:11

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to mtgummibear, 08-20-2006 01:56:57

I hear exactly what he says and with one exception, I agree with what he says. I did my farming in the 40's through mid 60's and I would love to be back there again. As most have stated, unless you want to truck farm or use some other imaginative farming styles, you just can't make a living today even if your single,let alone with a family on 80 acres. Not trying to start a war or anything, just my own thoughts and feelings. God Bless. Bob Da. (La)

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mile0001

08-20-2006 20:34:41

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to Bob Da. (La), 08-20-2006 03:31:11

I would have loved to have farmed in the 40's - 70's. The equipment I do farm with is straight from that era. Nothing wrong with hard physical work! Most people could stand for a little more physical labor, including most modern farmers.

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Ken L.

08-20-2006 06:04:48

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to Bob Da. (La), 08-20-2006 03:31:11

I was born in the township of Greenville Wi. Except for the little town of Greenville, it was all farms. That was 53 years ago. Now, there isn't much farm land left. Still live in Greenville but, hate it. City slickers ruined the good life and everything WILL be the way they want it. I'm looking to get out. Hope it happens soon. People around here don't even have a sense of humor anymore. Had a realtor stop the other day to help me look for a different place out of the area. I told her I wanted a little more privacy. She asked me how much. I told her that I wanted a place where I could walk around the corner of the house and take a wizz without having a neigbor watching me. She gave me a dumb look, got in her car and left. Was it something I said?

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Brad in WI

08-20-2006 19:56:59

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Re: Guess I'm Just 30 Years Too Late in reply to Ken L., 08-20-2006 06:04:48

I am looking to buy a house in the Seymour area. (Just north of Greenville) I have been looking for over a year and have not found anything where I can whizz around the corner. Guess I may have to just settle on a big (.5 acre) town lot. 8(

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